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2012-10-01, 06:04
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Anledningen till att MEK inte längre klassas som terrorister är för att USA vill kunna stödja dem. USAs enda intresse är att använda MEKs inställning mot Irans regim till sin egen fördel. Detta är typiskt USAs beteende, de gjorde exempelvis samma sak med Saddam tidigare trots att han efter det genomförde de grövsta brotten någonsin.

Så att utrikesdepartementet med clinton i spetsen och domstolen i usa hade skilda åsikter vilket ledde att clinton tillslut tvingades, med hjälp av domstols order, att delista pga brist på bevisning de betyder ingenting?
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2012-10-01, 06:54
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Så att utrikesdepartementet med clinton i spetsen och domstolen i usa hade skilda åsikter vilket ledde att clinton tillslut tvingades, med hjälp av domstols order, att delista pga brist på bevisning de betyder ingenting?
Du kanske ska titta på vilka som ville ha bort dem från terroristlistan och varför?

"...on the grounds that they constituted a viable opposition to the Iranian regime"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Mujahedin_of_Iran#Calls_for_removal_of_th e_designation_as_a_terrorist_group
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2012-10-02, 04:40
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Du kanske ska titta på vilka som ville ha bort dem från terroristlistan och varför?

"...on the grounds that they constituted a viable opposition to the Iranian regime"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Mujahedin_of_Iran#Calls_for_removal_of_th e_designation_as_a_terrorist_group

läs dina källors källor;


http://edition.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/...addington.mek/

betoning på följande: First, the decision to classify an organization as a terrorist group must be based on fact. Up until now, 10 courts in Britain, France, the European Union and the United States have looked at the evidence and ruled that the group is not involved in terrorism. Britain's Proscribed Organisations Appeal Commission and later the Court of Appeal looked at the U.S. State Department's reasons for listing the group as a terror organization in great detail and rejected them as irrelevant or found that the allegations' sources and accuracy could not be established. The courts confirmed that the MEK halted armed activities against Iran in 2001 and voluntarily disarmed in 2003.
Second, the ban has put the lives of 3,400 MEK members at Camp Ashraf, Iraq, at great risk. In April, Iraq's Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, a close ally of Iran, ordered an armed raid on the camp that left 36 residents dead and 350 injured. But when a bipartisan congressional delegation questioned al-Maliki in Baghdad about the incident, he said the United States had no right to complain about such violence when it was directed at a group the State Department itself called terrorist. Lifting the ban would remove any pretext for another military assault against the unarmed and defenseless MEK members at Camp Ashraf.
Finally, there is the broader issue of relations with Iran. Proponents of engagement with Iran claim that lifting the ban on the MEK would all but destroy any chance of future dialogue with Tehran. But what would be the point of such dialogue? Does anyone seriously believe the mullahs could be persuaded to throw away their attempt to obtain a nuclear weapon when the achievement of their ambitions is so close? And what would be the time frame for the talks, when Iran is believed to be less than one year from reaching nuclear breakout capability?

resultat: Delisting the MEK would send a strong signal to the millions in Iran who seek democratic change that the United States is on their side and has shunned the regime. It will tell the mullahs that the United States seriously intends to stop their outlawed activities and support democratic change in Iran just when Tehran is trying to use its influence to keep its anti-democratic and anti-Western partners in power in Syria and Iraq.
Delisting the MEK would lift the restrictions on the region's largest Muslim group with a secular agenda and a democratic platform, whose moderate interpretation of Islam strongly threatens the mullahs' fundamentalism.
The State Department, which has been unable to offer the courts any sound legal arguments for maintaining the ban on the MEK, now has a legal, moral and political duty to delist the MEK so it is not hampered in its work as the representative of those yearning for democratic change in Iran.

slutsats: Först å främst ville de själva komma ut ur listan. för det andra presenterade de en annan sorts valmöjlighet till politiken kring Iran; de två redan existerande valmöjligheterna med antingen krig lr diplomati. den nu tredje med att delista MEK för att öppna upp deras händer. Du kan läsa i resultat vad det innebär. Så dessa personer du nämner är anhängare till den tredje alternativet.
I första poängen ser du att usa inte hade nån legitimt skäl att ha kvar de där så de var tvungna att ta bort de. usa som stat stödjer inte MEK. de va bara tvungna att delista MEK annars brister deras trovärdighet.
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