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2018-07-21, 22:29
  #8113
Medlem
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Ursprungligen postat av Carolina1993
You seem to know a bit more about how the media work. I'm still thinking about this rumor, which says that there were two suicide attempts.
Tim's family released their statement at the 26th. At the 1st of may TMZ brought the headline:
Avicii - Suicide by broken glass
The article contains the following sentences:
Multiple sources familiar with the circumstances surrounding the famous DJ's death tell us, ....
We cannot confirm this, but the sources were privy to specific information about Avicii's death.

Who gave this information to TMZ? Tim's Family is swedish and I suspect most of their relatives and friends also. So why should swedish people give information to TMZ, instead of a european magazine?
My conclusion is that the sources (three sources) are related to Tim's close friends or colleagues, many of them live in L.A.

None of the sources mentioned two suicide attempts:
'Two sources tell us the point of injury was Avicii's neck but another strongly denies that, saying it was his wrist.' -
So what is to think of that? If they really were close to Tim's entourage, they should know if there was a first suicide attempt one or two days before, that his brother was alarmed, flew to Muscat and came too late and all these dramatic details, we were told later. But why didn't they mention this?

In my opinion the reason is that there was no suicide attempt before the 20th. I think all these details were added later to 'decorate' the 'glass bottle story' and make it more believable.
I just had a look at Alessandra's IG again . It doesn't look like if anything serious had happened before the 20.04.. She posted her photos till the 20th and then the 'cut'. No pics anymore from Oman, after Tim died.
Look at the photos from the 19th and 20th, they are not the kind of photos you would send, if a good friend, who is on a holiday in the same place as you, had just tried to kill himself.
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2018-07-21, 22:32
  #8114
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Ursprungligen postat av ludde9601
What link do you have and proof that ayahuscha actually was Tims idea?

He said in a radio doc that he had been reading up on it and researched it thoroughly for quite some time and that it was something that he had wanted to try for a while. Why do you want to blame his entourage for his experiments with ayahuasca? TB seemed to be a pretty strong character. I also think he was pretty thorough and meticulous in his approach to things.
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2018-07-21, 22:34
  #8115
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Ursprungligen postat av Julie80
Quite a few people have written that Sean was in Stockholm on 20th of April and that he has been seen around town in the days leading up to TBs death. Are you sure, that what you have seen is not from earlier on that month?

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Ursprungligen postat av ludde9601
Sean Eriksson i remember was putting up instagramstories 20th and 21st that month. One of a beach and Sean hugging a friend? The other one of the airport of Oman.

As I understand Fricko put the sandsurfing picture up a later date then it actually took place.

Sean did not put up anything on 21st.
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2018-07-21, 22:37
  #8116
Medlem
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Ursprungligen postat av Rafaela
https://www.quora.com/profile/Tim-Bergling-2

"Who is Avicii's favourite philosopher?"

Tim Bergling, A.K.A "AVICII - Answered Oct 28, 2015

"A couple of years ago I wouldnt have had any problems answering this question but Im astounded at how confused I feel about this question right now. My first instinctual answer when I saw this was Hermann Hesse - but my confusion set in when I started thinking about what constitutes being a philosopher. In terms of adapting philosophy's there was a radical shift in my own understanding, or concept rather, of reality after reading Siddharta - which will always be a very fond memory for me.

I guess, to me, Siddhartha acted as philosophy disguised as fiction and coming from a very cynical and far from "spiritual" mindset it really helped me answer a lot of questions about myself and my purpose - but more importanly it helped me find the right questions to ask myself, helped me pin-point what Ive really wanted to know . For instance, "What happens after I die?" was a question I used to ask myself a lot because I was afraid of dying, now I rarely think about it anymore but if I do the question would now rather be "Why am I afraid to die?"; what exactly is it about non-existence that scares me so much? After all no matter how much I try to tell myself otherwise Im gonna find out when I do die either way - whats the rush? Whats the point of making the life I do have harder and more stressful by worrying about something inevitable, esp when whatever happens there's no benefit to knowing in advance? Whats the point of on some subconscious level entertaining the idea of escaping death, or escaping "not existing as i know" rather?

Fear of death is just one of countless examples of how Siddhartha helped me approach my own questioning in another way thats more in line with what Im actually feeling and wondering. It helped me watch my own thought process and more than anything it has helped me be honest to myself when its been the hardest. Thats why it was a catalyst for a radical shift in my perception of reality and purpose and therefor whatever Hesse's intentions with his work was I personally consider it very philosophical and insightful!"

My girlfriend is kinda friend with a girl Tim was into a couple of months (1/2 year before his letter of retirement and only a few months before writing "Without you")
I am not gonna link anything to this girl as she has said nothing about this on social media. Anyway I read posts on her homepage or blog after Avicii dead. She never mention him by name. There is a lot of stuff about her grieve and him being caged. "Sweetmusic man" she calls this person and she mention a deep discussion with him about his love for the movie "the fountain". A very hardcore movie about death and living thru time it seems when I saw the trailer. (There is also a post in April where she has put in a picture of Stockholm skyline from his apartment that must be from his apartment then in Stockholm (I recognized the view so checked the Avicii instagram and there is a video and posted on instagram summer 2015) Probably they where sitting there together on the roof as her pic do not match up to a instant pic from the video)

It seems some people where there for Tim before Avicii as I read her posts. And she kept silent.

RIP
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2018-07-21, 22:39
  #8117
Medlem
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Ursprungligen postat av Julie80
Jeg ved jo ikke med sikkerhed, hvad der er sket med de nøgenbilleder. Men ja, det kan meget sandsynligt være de samme nøgenbilleder som Tereza talte om på instagram som Edwardsides har hørt om. Det er svært at vide....

Jeg tror Awat og Fricko har det hämsk. Selvom det ikke er deres skyld så tror jeg ikke man kan lade være med at bebrejde sig selv i en sådan situation. De var der da det skete. En af dem fandt sikkert TB efter selvmordet. Det my have været så hämsk. Og de føler sikkert, at de skulle have vidst, at TB var suicidal. Men som mange andre der begår selvmord så har TB nok været god til at skjule sin selvmordsplan, så de ikke skulle prøve at forhindre ham i det Hvis man virkelig ønsker at dø så siger man det jo ikke til nogen. Jeg håber, at de får noget psykologhjælp.

Awat Eftekhari har stängt sin instagram helt ned efter TB's død. Den er væk. Hans brukernamn var: awat.eftekhari
https://www.instagram.com/awat.eftekhari/?hl=da

Du kan se et link til Awats intagram fra Semi Badreddines instagram fra denne post (se tag@awat.eftekhari): https://www.instagram.com/p/BJoTPvOgeca/?hl=da

Dette er hans facebook. Den er gjort privat:
https://www.facebook.com/awat.eftekhari

Ja 😔, har också tänkt mycket på dem och tyvärr tror jag att det kan stämma med två självmordsförsök, vilket gör det så mycket värre 💔, hoppas verkligen de får hjälp och stöd. Så tragiskt med Carl också. Anledningen till att jag tror på uppgifterna om två försök är att det förklarar uttalandet om att hans bror inte ”hann komma fram i tid”. Får inte ihop det på något annat sätt. Eller i alla fall att något gjorde att familjen uppfattade suicidalrisken som mycket hög. Blir så ledsen när jag förstår hur hans närmaste som var på plats måste känt när han lyckades ändå, fruktansvärt 😢
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2018-07-21, 22:43
  #8118
Medlem
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Ursprungligen postat av Julie80
Sean did not put up anything on 21st.

I am sure he did. You might have forgotten! It was a beach and it was tagged "Oman". The problem with instagram stories is that neither of us has proof now if we did not screenshot is. So just believe me!
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2018-07-21, 22:52
  #8119
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Ursprungligen postat av Julie80
Quite a few people have written that Sean was in Stockholm on 20th of April and that he has been seen around town in the days leading up to TBs death. Are you sure, that what you have seen is not from earlier on that month?

This is a bit tricky for me, as I just read all your previous posts from (May2018) Please link all the persons you refer to as "Quite a few people have written that Sean was in Stockholm on 20th of April". Never heard that before, and I have also seen the instagramstories by Sean during that weekend. So please link to all these "quite a few people".
Otherwise I might tend to think you want to make up that Sean was in Stockholm all that time. Why I do not know?
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2018-07-21, 22:55
  #8120
Medlem
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Ursprungligen postat av ludde9601
I am sure he did. You might have forgotten! It was a beach and it was tagged "Oman". The problem with instagram stories is that neither of us has proof now if we did not screenshot is. So just believe me!

Om han la upp en Instastory borde den varit en hyllning till Tim på något sätt. Svårt att tro att han skulle lagt upp en random vanlig resestory dagen efter Tims död, ffa inte om han var med när det hände. Man borde vara upptagen av annat än Insta då kan tyckas..? Minns du om den kunde tolkas som ett farväl/hyllning el liknande?
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2018-07-21, 22:57
  #8121
Medlem
För er som har instagram finns en fantastisk hyllning till Tim från Tomorrowland under #avicii. Inte den från igår med hjärtat. Ni vet vilken det är när ni ser den!
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2018-07-21, 22:58
  #8122
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Ursprungligen postat av Gaianzenith
Om han la upp en Instastory borde den varit en hyllning till Tim på något sätt. Svårt att tro att han skulle lagt upp en random vanlig resestory dagen efter Tims död, ffa inte om han var med när det hände. Man borde vara upptagen av annat än Insta då kan tyckas..? Minns du om den kunde tolkas som ett farväl/hyllning el liknande?

Såklart det var en typ spirituell hyllning. Bilden var av en strand i solnedgången. Solnedgångar och stränder/vatten/utsikt är hela entoragets grej. Flera veckor efter Avicii gick bort var mycket vi såg på instagramstories just vatten/vyer/solnedgångar. Just solnedgångar var lite Aviciis grej.

Det var inte någon rolig semesterbild. 2 vänner som håller om varandra i tröst och ser ut över en öde strand och solen som går ner borta i fjärran (Oman var taggad plats)
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2018-07-21, 23:05
  #8123
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Ursprungligen postat av ludde9601
This is a bit tricky for me, as I just read all your previous posts from (May2018) Please link all the persons you refer to as "Quite a few people have written that Sean was in Stockholm on 20th of April". Never heard that before, and I have also seen the instagramstories by Sean during that weekend. So please link to all these "quite a few people".
Otherwise I might tend to think you want to make up that Sean was in Stockholm all that time. Why I do not know?

Why would I make that up. There would be no point in that. There are almost 700 pages in this thread. It would be insane to go through those to 'prove' anything to you. I have no reason to lie about what I have read. Who was in Oman on 20th April has been discussed several times in here. It has been written that Sean was in Stockholm by several people. One wrote that he had seen him at a party. Another also wrote that he knew he was not in Oman on that date. In furtherance hereto, why would he put up a story from Oman if he had been there. It would be pretty distasteful.

I do not want to get into a discussion with you because you are frankly quite rude with people at times, when they have an opinion that differs from yours, or have heard something that deviates from what you have heard, so lets agree to disagree on this.

By the way. Jeg forstår svensk så du behøver ikke skrive til mig på engelsk
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2018-07-22, 00:09
  #8124
Medlem
Jag är ingen stor fan av elektronisk musik. Men sedan jag läste om Tims död blev jag nyfiken och kikade på de dokumentärer som fanns och lyssnade lite på hans musik och får väl ändå ge killen all kredit. Han framstår i dokumentärerna som en riktigt bra kille med en stor passion för sin musik.

Angående hans död vittnar dokumentärerna om en person som visserligen hade en stark glöd för att turnera och spela sin musik. Men inte under de påtvingade förhållandena som blev allt påtagligare med åren, månad efter månad, scen efter scen.

Då han valde att kliva ned från rampljuset för en paus berättar han att han hoppades på förståelse och stöd i hans beslut. Istället möttes han av ständiga påtryckningar mot en comeback.

Det nämns inte i dokumentärerna specifikt var ifrån påtryckningarna kom. Men det står klart att det huvudsakligen kom från skivbolag och hans team vars inkomst var beroende av Avicii.

Men kanske kom det även påtryckningar från vanliga vänner. Min magkänsla säger att Tim ville vara just Tim i det här skedet. Åka och fiska med gamla kompisar och göra sånt som han kan tänkas ha tyckt om precis som vi andra gör och i egenskap av Tim. Inte i egenskap av rockstjärnan bland frågvissa vänner och beundrare.

Istället upptäckte han att han var Avicii var han än hamnade. En situation han inget hellre ville än att komma bort ifrån.

Jag tror att killen genuint brann för sin musik och att sprida energi till andra via densamma. Men inte på bekostnad av hela sitt privatliv.

Tragiskt. Men killen lämnar efter sig ett fotavtryck i historien som få av oss får göra och jag tror att han under sina sista 10 år fick uppleva mer än vi andra som vandrar vidare mot 90 någonsin kommer att få.
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