2011-02-21, 02:37
#158
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Ursprungligen postat av Madagascar
Det här påstås vara ett engelskt transpript av Saif Gaddafis tal:
http://www.tweetdeck.com/twitter/exiledsurfer/~oJiWX
"Of course there were many deaths, which angered many people in Benghazi, but why were there people killed? The army was under stress, it is not used to crowd control so they shot, but I called them. The army said that some protesters were drunk, others were on hallucinogens or drugs. The army has to defend its weapons. And the people were angry. So there were deaths, but in the end Libyans were killed."
Väl talat...
http://www.tweetdeck.com/twitter/exiledsurfer/~oJiWX
"Of course there were many deaths, which angered many people in Benghazi, but why were there people killed? The army was under stress, it is not used to crowd control so they shot, but I called them. The army said that some protesters were drunk, others were on hallucinogens or drugs. The army has to defend its weapons. And the people were angry. So there were deaths, but in the end Libyans were killed."
Väl talat...
BBC News med en artikel om TV-bluddret av Gaddafis son. Filippatoffeln Reinfeldt skulle nog svamla på liknande sätt om han ställdes inför en inbördeskrigsliknande situation: "Det rör sig om anonyma näthatare...en klick onda berusade kriminella dödsknarksnazister med utländskt stöd...som skapat ett vi och dom-tänkande...medan jag är hyperdemokratisk och dessutom alltid hållit Sagerska palatset öppet för alla nödlidande."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12520586
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"---Urging Libyans to "stop the bloodshed and stand as one for Libya", Sayf Gaddafi said they had a "real chance of reform and democracy".
He praised his father, saying he was not like Mr Mubarak and had received thousands of calls from people willing to come to Libya and defend him.
"Some people" had been killed, he conceded, but foreign media were exaggerating the violence and reports of high death tolls were "imaginary", he said.
Troops had opened fire on protesters because they were not trained to handle civil unrest, he argued.
He accused "opposition elements" living abroad of trying to initiate an Egypt-style Facebook revolution in Libya.
"They have started a campaign to bring Libya to a point reached by Egypt and Tunisia," he said.
"Security forces have pre-empted this and arrested some of the people involved. A few people have died and violence against the police has escalated... This is what happened in Benghazi."
He warned of the threat of civil war, saying "everyone" in the country was armed and, if war started, Libyans would be "mourning hundreds and thousands of casualties".
He confirmed that protesters had seized control of some military bases and tanks in eastern Libya, and said "drunkards and thugs" were driving tanks about the streets.
He also said that "African mercenaries" were being used against the government - a charge protesters have made against the government itself.---"
He praised his father, saying he was not like Mr Mubarak and had received thousands of calls from people willing to come to Libya and defend him.
"Some people" had been killed, he conceded, but foreign media were exaggerating the violence and reports of high death tolls were "imaginary", he said.
Troops had opened fire on protesters because they were not trained to handle civil unrest, he argued.
He accused "opposition elements" living abroad of trying to initiate an Egypt-style Facebook revolution in Libya.
"They have started a campaign to bring Libya to a point reached by Egypt and Tunisia," he said.
"Security forces have pre-empted this and arrested some of the people involved. A few people have died and violence against the police has escalated... This is what happened in Benghazi."
He warned of the threat of civil war, saying "everyone" in the country was armed and, if war started, Libyans would be "mourning hundreds and thousands of casualties".
He confirmed that protesters had seized control of some military bases and tanks in eastern Libya, and said "drunkards and thugs" were driving tanks about the streets.
He also said that "African mercenaries" were being used against the government - a charge protesters have made against the government itself.---"
2011-02-21, 02:38
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Haha, klockrent!
Ursprungligen postat av Ezzelino
Filippatoffeln Reinfeldt skulle nog svamla på liknande sätt om han ställdes inför en inbördeskrigsliknande situation: "Det rör sig om anonyma näthatare...en klick onda berusade kriminella dödsknarksnazister med utländskt stöd...som skapat ett vi och dom-tänkande...medan jag är hyperdemokratisk och dessutom alltid hållit Sagerska palatset öppet för alla nödlidande."
2011-02-21, 02:57
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Ursprungligen postat av Vortur
Haha, klockrent!
Slasktratten Reinfeldt, Abdirisak Waberi och Gaddafi jr skulle säkert komma väl överens. Skräckpropaganda om att England och Förenta Staterna skulle invadera Libyen om Gaddafi faller:
http://news.antiwar.com/2011/02/20/gadhafis-son-warns-protesters-of-us-occupation/
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"---At the same time, the younger Gadhafi appeared to concede that the eastern half of the nation was lost, and offered some decentralization if they returned it to the regime. He also warned the protesters that if they continued they’d need passports to visit the western part of the country, which is still mostly under regime control.
But Gadhafi, who was confirmed to have talked to British Foreign Secretary William Hague right before his address, also said that the US and Britain would never allow a free Libya and that if the nominally pro-West Gadhafi regime fell they could count on an imminent US invasion and Iraq-style occupation.---"
But Gadhafi, who was confirmed to have talked to British Foreign Secretary William Hague right before his address, also said that the US and Britain would never allow a free Libya and that if the nominally pro-West Gadhafi regime fell they could count on an imminent US invasion and Iraq-style occupation.---"
Överste Gaddafi gjorde tidigt under sin karriär i showbiz en sak som på sätt och vis var bra (även om jag gillar italienare, trots alla det folkets brister). Han sade åt de 20.000 italienare som fanns kvar i Libyen att lämna landet, och exproprierade deras tillgångar. Yes we can!
(Vi har 20.000 av en annan etnicitet i vårt land som nästan utan undantag inte arbetar för svenskarnas väl. Åtminstone är i princip alla som gjort sig "bemärkta" av denna etnicitet svenskfientliga.)Grazianis kampanj mot de libyska nationalistrebellerna i Kyrenaika bedrevs med onödigt brutala medel, och överhuvudtaget var återupplivandet av den borgerligt-imperialistiska politiken från 1911 års erövring en överflödig anakronism. Mussolinis regim hade haft betydligt bättre förutsättningar att långsiktigt lyckas med sitt folkräddande projekt om man inte hybrisattackerat Abessinien, Libyen, Grekland, Albanien...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Libya
2011-02-21, 03:12
#167
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Ursprungligen postat av Ezzelino
Slasktratten Reinfeldt, Abdirisak Waberi och Gaddafi jr skulle säkert komma väl överens. Skräckpropaganda om att England och Förenta Staterna skulle invadera Libyen om Gaddafi faller:
http://news.antiwar.com/2011/02/20/gadhafis-son-warns-protesters-of-us-occupation/
(Vi har 20.000 av en annan etnicitet i vårt land som nästan utan undantag inte arbetar för svenskarnas väl. Åtminstone är i princip alla som gjort sig "bemärkta" av denna etnicitet svenskfientliga.)
Mussolinis regim hade haft betydligt bättre förutsättningar att långsiktigt lyckas med sitt folkräddande projekt om man inte hybrisattackerat Abessinien, Libyen, Grekland, Albanien...
http://news.antiwar.com/2011/02/20/gadhafis-son-warns-protesters-of-us-occupation/
(Vi har 20.000 av en annan etnicitet i vårt land som nästan utan undantag inte arbetar för svenskarnas väl. Åtminstone är i princip alla som gjort sig "bemärkta" av denna etnicitet svenskfientliga.)
Mussolinis regim hade haft betydligt bättre förutsättningar att långsiktigt lyckas med sitt folkräddande projekt om man inte hybrisattackerat Abessinien, Libyen, Grekland, Albanien...
1. Norrmän?
2. Påminner ju aningen om en samtida diktator med liknande storslagna planer...
2011-02-21, 03:14
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Ursprungligen postat av cryptome
Jag inte var de utländska legosoldaterna kommer ifrån men att de flygs in i stora mängder tyder väl på att regimen tappat kontrollen rejält. Jag har sett rapporter om att de skulle komma från Tchad, Niger, Zimbabwe. Algeriet och Bangladesh och det riskerar ju att andra länder dras in (kanske främst Algeriet eller Egypten). Sannolikt flygs det in en hel del vapen och ammunition också. Och är Muammar al Qaddafi ens kvar i Libyen? Rykten gör gällande att han flytt till Hugo Chavez (kanske tog han med Berlusconi på vägen?)
Att ta in en massa utländska legosoldater kan nog vara ett mycket relevant och logiskt steg i.o.m. att situationen är förvirrad och den libyska militären är klanindelad. De utländska legosoldaterna är med all säkerhet de lojalaste till Khadaffi i denna kaotiska stund. Kan väl liknas vid de nordiska väringarna som vaktade den bysantinske kejsaren.
Hahaha!
Jag har funderat febrilt hela natten kring var Khadaffi kan tänkas fly/befinna sig. Han är väl inte direkt välkommen i UAE eller Saudiarabien.
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