2010-02-18, 17:10
  #1
Medlem
Har försökt med olika language identifiers men får helt olika resultat. Kopierar in ett stycke:

"ébe bip ogeler paa eyy oféb teb fin osce ouw terte, eoush teen eey. Ne ued mue. Shi wedze. Eoul acoim ob érosp she, whee ces bash tun oör evoam tákéwun átef aosh. ácz asvocz wasc wu lohuaz, ásund véth djywena. Et januaz. Aku aezutap mús tueloi lelu amá wha choce, meta tíz dzoa júczor sé asvocz bé. Ost úkuom adóf utae ecát, uroas asu num."

länk: http://www.lycaeum.org/mv/ircbot/PARALINGUA2.php?VOLUME=0&ARTICLE=165&PAGE=163&REF= %C1f%E9

Vore hemskt tacksam för hjälp!
Citera
2010-02-18, 17:24
  #2
Medlem
Försökte jag med. Men hitta tyvärr inget.
Citera
2010-02-18, 17:49
  #3
Medlem
nasdors avatar
Slovakiska?
Citera
2010-02-18, 17:50
  #4
Medlem
Oval-Vogels avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av nasdor
Slovakiska?
Nope.


Något indianskt språk?
Citera
2010-02-18, 17:57
  #5
Medlem
xceLs avatar
jag tror inte det är ett språk, paralingua verkar vara något som kastar om bokstäver typ... söker man på några av fraserna hittar man ju bara relaterade sidor, så att säga.

Citat:
The page is not a language but rather an anagram and the translation for the title and first line is:
(http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091102032045AALKhxM - diskussion om annan text)

Citat:
It is a game and an invented language made anagramming English words. If you find the key, you may translate it all by yourself. You will find an helper at the bottom of the page.
Nice, a little bit academic.

The translator translates also English to paralingua, (It translates from English too! is said "Rattling toothsome frailness" in paralingua) and it should be Paralingua becomes "Pirate's absolute enigma."
Enjoy
(http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080820230446AAnyfs0)

Prova detta kanske:


Citat:
There's a simple but effective way of finding out what kind of "language" you are dealing with, i.e. if we're looking at an alphabetical code of a known language or not:

1. count the frequencies of letters in the text (you will find tools via Letter frequency on WP)

2. check out the letter frequencies for any language you might find it to be a code version of (English and Latin would offer themselves, maybe German or Ancient Greek as well)

3. compare the results:

- you quickly notice that the letter distribution is very similar to that of existing languages... but of none of them in particular. (this makes it unlikely that it is a simple alphabetical code, which would distort the frequency, e.g. leaving "e" strangely rare)

- you will also find that the language makes use of all (!) the letters available on a normal keyboard, which most languages do not: w/v are used alongside each other, as well as j/y, for example (this makes it unlikely to be, e.g. a Romance or Slavonic language in simple disguise, and, quite frankly, more likely to be the result of a keyboard, a perfectly monolingual English speaker or so, and lots of pot or shrooms)

4. Move on to morphology and grammar: can you find words that...
- reappear? (e.g. auxiliaries -- he does use some words more than once, but not many)
- often go together?
- often are preceded or followed by another kind of word?
- end similarly?
- begin similarly?
Or, on a more limited note:
- common combinations of letters?
- letters or combinations fewer words end on?
- letters or combinations fewer words begin on?

If yes, there might be a real grammar and a real morphology behind it. I'm too bored to do it (it's entertaining stuff, but not more than that), but at a first glance I would say: nope.

If you asked me, I'd tell you it's by a chap with too much time on his hands, trying to create something similar to the Voynich manuscript, samples of which he seems to include on the page.

Ideally (and most entertainingly, I have to say) it would be someone who has actually made an effort and created some sort of a cipher that could translate the text into something legible (check out WP on Voynich for inspiration) -- rather than creating page upon page of mumbo jumbo. If he had, he would be on a similar level to the V. manuscript. If not, well, it's a nice riddle for a Sunday evening. And I love the rude "translations" the de-jumbler on the bottom keeps suggesting. I got a few very anatomical ones.
Citera
2010-02-18, 18:16
  #6
Medlem
xceLs avatar
Hittade denna också, verkar dock inte gå att tillämpa på den länken du gav:
http://www.lycaeum.org/mv/anagrams/PARATRANSLATE.cgi?
Någon kanske kan få fram något vettigt iaf...

Hmm, verkar som att det iaf är ett anagram som heter Voynich på den sidan du länkade...

men jag kanske är ute och cyklar, googlade på voynich:

Citat:
The Voynich manuscript is a mysterious, undeciphered illustrated book thought to have been written in the 15th or 16th century.[1] The author, script, and language of the manuscript remain unknown.

Kanske är något på spåren nu, prova att översätt sidan på sidan längst ner här:
Kod:
http://www.lycaeum.org/mv/anagrams/Voynich/PARALINGUA.cgi

Blir iofs lite konstigt men inte helt mumbojumbo iaf, provat lite meningar...


Edit:
Tror du är rätt körd dessvärre
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Citera
2010-02-18, 18:30
  #7
Bannlyst
Albanska?
Citera
2010-02-18, 18:43
  #8
Medlem
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av HonheterNelly
Albanska?


Nej, kort sagt:

DET ÄR INGET SPRÅK.

Gissningar är helt onödiga
Citera
2010-02-18, 18:49
  #9
Medlem
Lesoviks avatar
Palauiska

http://books.google.se/books?id=ae7S2YqjIY8C&pg=PA200&lpg=PA200&dq=Metaec h&source=bl&ots=M02KxO5o-0&sig=jbSWTWFJLyIgaAK-G4VPbgABOMA&hl=sv&ei=d3x9S-LzKaTYmwP358HZBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&res num=7&ved=0CC0Q6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=Metaech&f=false
Citera
2010-02-18, 18:55
  #10
Medlem
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av Lesovik
Palauiska

http://books.google.se/books?id=ae7S2YqjIY8C&pg=PA200&lpg=PA200&dq=Metaec h&source=bl&ots=M02KxO5o-0&sig=jbSWTWFJLyIgaAK-G4VPbgABOMA&hl=sv&ei=d3x9S-LzKaTYmwP358HZBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&res num=7&ved=0CC0Q6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=Metaech&f=false

Nä. Vi vet redan svaret: Det är inget språk. Undrar hur många fler felaktiga gissningar vi kommer att få.
Citera
2010-02-18, 18:55
  #11
Medlem
xceLs avatar
Har du läst NÅGOT i tråden?
Citera
2010-02-18, 18:59
  #12
Medlem
Lesoviks avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av xceL
Har du läst NÅGOT i tråden?

Ha ha, nej. För långa texter
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