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Arnstad
Du menar alltså att natostödet till att bygga upp den ukrainska armen, som fortgått sedan 2014, liksom löftena, om än vaga, till ett framtida medlemskap inte alls har med den nuvarnade konflikten att göra?
Har väl att göra med det i sån mån att om Ukraina gått med i Nato tillsammans med dom andra öststats länderna så hade dom aldrig blivit invaderade. Man försökte ju med diplomati innan kriget ifrån flera länder. Tyskland sade bland annat att dom kunde lova att Ukraina inte skulle få gå med i NATO på 30år. Ifrån USAs håll så hände detta:
" He reiterated Moscow’s position on Ukraine, formally offered in mid-December in two proposed treaties — that NATO must end its expansion plans and halt any activity in countries that had joined the alliance after 1997, which included Poland, Romania, Bulgaria and the Baltic states.
Rejecting the proposal to close NATO’s doors and reduce the status of existing members, the administration instead offered talks and trust-building measures in a number of security areas, including the deployment of troops and the placement of weapons on NATO’s eastern flank along the border with Russia. The offer was conditioned on de-escalation of the military threat to Ukraine. Ryabkov told Sherman that Russia was disappointed in the American attitude.
The White House had envisioned Sherman’s meeting with Ryabkov as “a chance to test whether the Russians were serious about the substance of the concerns … and if there was a way forward for any kind of diplomacy,” said Emily Horne, then the spokesperson for the National Security Council. “I think it became pretty clear, pretty quickly that [the Russians] were performing diplomacy, not actually undertaking diplomacy. They weren’t even doing it with much seriousness.”"
Eller som nu då Medvedevs uttalande:
"Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev on Friday said that Russia would not stop the war even if Ukraine dropped its hopes of joining the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO).
"Renouncing its participation in the North Atlantic alliance is now vital, but it is already insufficient in order to establish peace," Medvedev told LCI television as reported by Reuters. "
Det har aldrig handlat om NATO utan om att Ryssland vill bli större, rikare och mäktigare.