2022-05-09, 10:38
  #146665
Medlem
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Hoppas det, allt annat vore slarv.


tänk om S säger NEJ till NATO på söndag? då kommer hela valrörelsen handla om NATO istället för vård, skola, omsorg, skatter,jobb
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2022-05-09, 10:40
  #146666
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Ukraina passar på skärskilt att tacka ryssarna på som igår öppnade eld mot sina egna positioner med TOS-1...

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The leadership of the 97th Infantry Battalion expresses its satisfaction with the actions of the Russian occupiers, who today, May 2022, using the heavy Zantsepek flamethrower system in the Zaporizhia direction, used it against their positions and actually burned the racist occupiers from Ukrainian soil. Such actions are positively perceived and supported in every way by the Ukrainian military. We understand that there is a tradition of cooking kebabs in May...
https://twitter.com/mrkovalenko/status/1523492036145336320?s=21&t=1UX-nSpZHGh5YOAocMi9JQ

Friendly fire är trots allt en rysk paradgren så det passar väl såhär på parad-dagen..
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2022-05-09, 10:43
  #146667
Medlem
Jofs avatar
Kvinnan som bröt på östspråk säger att en läcka i usa sagt att om Putin hotar med kärnvapen så kommer en aktion ske som den mot Bin Laden. Så han kommer att mista livet.
Så det var därför han inte hotade idag. Avslutar hon med.

AB idag kl 9 - 10.
Bakom betalväg.
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2022-05-09, 10:43
  #146668
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negrofobens avatar
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Ursprungligen postat av Skrattarhaha
HAHAHA jag lånar den frasen, "kreativ marknadsföring". Den var rolig 🤣

Undrar hur mycket "kreativ marknadsföring" det ligger bakom Ukrainas anklagelser mot Ryssarna, eller gäller det bara när de skapar sin egen propaganda 😉
Ukraina behöver ingen kreativ marknadsföring för att bevisa ryssorchernas krigsbrott. Bevisen är överväldigande och oberoende internationella utredare finns på plats och samlar in all data kring svinens framfart mot civila kvinnor och barn. Senast i går bombades en skola med 400 civila och flera hundra döda kvinnor och barn. Du tycker säkert det var ok och att det bara var nazister som drabbades....
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2022-05-09, 10:45
  #146669
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Ursprungligen postat av SiamGnome
Jag förstår faktiskt inte varför svenska medlöpare och rysstroll försöker använda sig av rysk propaganda på en västerländsk publik. Det funkar inte med ukrainska nazister. Det funkar i Ryssland men inte i väst.

Ryssarna måste bli bättre på styra specifika budskap beroende på publik. Det är bara komiskt att läsa rysstrollen och svenska medlöpares försök att använda rysk propaganda på svenskar. Det är bara löjligt.

Man måste dela upp publiken i grupper. Skicka olika budskap beroende på grupp. Annars gör propagandan mer skada än nytta.

t.

En ständig tanke när jag ser Rysk, Nordkoreansk och kinesisk propaganda. Var är era pr-team som förstår hur vi i väst tänker?
Uppenbarligen hyr ni in utlänningar, lyssnar ni på dem?
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2022-05-09, 10:45
  #146670
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Ursprungligen postat av psychicsailor
Nu gör jag ett nytt försök. Talet, google translate översatt:

Källa: http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/68366

Dear citizens of Russia!

Dear veterans!

Comrade soldiers and sailors, sergeants and foremen, midshipmen and ensigns!

Comrade officers, generals and admirals!

I congratulate you on the Great Victory Day!

The defense of the Motherland, when its fate was being decided, has always been sacred. With such feelings of genuine patriotism, the militia of Minin and Pozharsky rose for the Fatherland, went on the attack on the Borodino field, fought the enemy near Moscow and Leningrad, Kyiv and Minsk, Stalingrad and Kursk, Sevastopol and Kharkov.

So now, these days you are fighting for our people in the Donbass. For the security of our Motherland - Russia.

May 9, 1945 is forever inscribed in world history as a triumph of our united Soviet people, their unity and spiritual power, an unparalleled feat at the front and in the rear.

Victory Day is near and dear to each of us. There is no family in Russia that was not scorched by the Great Patriotic War. Her memory never fades. On this day, in the endless stream of the "Immortal Regiment" - children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren of the heroes of the Great Patriotic War. They carry photographs of their relatives, fallen soldiers who have remained forever young, and veterans who have already left us.

We are proud of the unconquered, valiant generation of victors, that we are their heirs, and it is our duty to keep the memory of those who crushed Nazism, who bequeathed us to be vigilant and do everything so that the horror of a global war does not happen again.

And therefore, despite all the disagreements in international relations, Russia has always advocated the creation of a system of equal and indivisible security, a system that is vital for the entire world community.

In December last year, we proposed to conclude an agreement on security guarantees. Russia called on the West to an honest dialogue, to search for reasonable, compromise solutions, to take into account each other's interests. All in vain. The NATO countries did not want to hear us, which means that in fact they had completely different plans. And we saw it.

Openly, preparations were underway for another punitive operation in the Donbass, for an invasion of our historical lands, including Crimea. In Kyiv, they announced the possible acquisition of nuclear weapons. The NATO bloc has begun active military development of the territories adjacent to us.

Thus, a threat absolutely unacceptable to us was systematically created, moreover, directly at our borders. Everything indicated that a clash with neo-Nazis, Bandera, on whom the United States and their younger partners staked, would be inevitable.

I repeat, we saw how the military infrastructure is being developed, how hundreds of foreign advisers began to work, there were regular deliveries of the most modern weapons from NATO countries. The danger grew every day.

Russia gave a preemptive rebuff to aggression. It was a forced, timely and only right decision. The decision of a sovereign, strong, independent country.

The United States of America, especially after the collapse of the Soviet Union, started talking about its exclusivity, thereby humiliating not only the whole world, but also its satellites, who have to pretend that they do not notice anything and meekly swallow it all.

But we are a different country. Russia has a different character. We will never give up love for the Motherland, faith and traditional values, the customs of our ancestors, respect for all peoples and cultures.

And in the West, these thousand-year-old values, apparently, have decided to cancel. Such moral degradation became the basis for cynical falsifications of the history of the Second World War, inciting Russophobia, praising traitors, mocking the memory of their victims, erasing the courage of those who won and suffered the Victory.

We know that American veterans who wanted to come to the parade in Moscow were effectively banned from doing so. But I want them to know that we are proud of your exploits, your contribution to the common Victory.

We honor all the soldiers of the allied armies - the Americans, the British, the French - the participants of the Resistance, the brave soldiers and partisans of China - all those who defeated Nazism and militarism.

Dear comrades!

Today, the militia of Donbass, together with the fighters of the Russian Army, are fighting on their own land, where the combatants of Svyatoslav and Vladimir Monomakh, the soldiers of Rumyantsev and Potemkin, Suvorov and Brusilov, fought the enemy, where the heroes of the Great Patriotic War - Nikolai Vatutin, Sidor Kovpak, Lyudmila Pavlichenko fought to the death.

I am now addressing our Armed Forces and the Donbass militia. You are fighting for the Motherland, for its future, so that no one forgets the lessons of the Second World War. So that there is no place in the world for executioners, punishers and Nazis.

Today we bow our heads before the blessed memory of all whose lives were taken by the Great Patriotic War, before the memory of sons, daughters, fathers, mothers, grandfathers, husbands, wives, brothers, sisters, relatives, friends.

We bow our heads before the memory of the martyrs of Odessa, who were burned alive in the House of Trade Unions in May 2014. Before the memory of the elderly, women and children of Donbass, civilians who died from ruthless shelling, barbaric strikes of neo-Nazis. We bow our heads before our comrades-in-arms, who died the death of the brave in a righteous battle - for Russia.

A moment of silence is announced.

(A minute of silence.)

The death of each of our soldiers and officers is grief for all of us and an irreparable loss for relatives and friends. The state, regions, enterprises, public organizations will do everything to care for such families and help them. We will give special support to the children of the dead and wounded comrades. The Presidential Decree on this was signed today.

I wish the wounded soldiers and officers a speedy recovery. And I thank the doctors, paramedics, nurses, medical staff of military hospitals for their selfless work. A low bow to you for fighting for every life - often under fire, on the front line, not sparing yourself.

Dear comrades!

Now here, on Red Square, soldiers and officers from many regions of our vast Motherland stand shoulder to shoulder, including those who arrived directly from the Donbass, directly from the combat zone.

We remember how Russia's enemies tried to use bands of international terrorists against us, tried to sow national and religious enmity in order to weaken and split us from within. Nothing succeeded.

Today, our fighters of different nationalities are together in battle, covering each other from bullets and shrapnel like brothers.

And this is the strength of Russia, the great, indestructible strength of our united multinational people.

Today you are defending what your fathers and grandfathers, great-grandfathers fought for. For them, the highest meaning of life has always been the well-being and security of the Motherland. And for us, their heirs, devotion to the Fatherland is the main value, a reliable support for the independence of Russia.

Those who crushed Nazism during the Great Patriotic War showed us an example of heroism for all time. This generation of winners, and we will always look up to them.

Glory to our valiant Armed Forces!

For Russia! For victory!

Hooray!
Ett ganska måttfullt tal för att vara Kreml. Jag ser inget om ”denazifiering” av Ukraina (dvs att störta dess folkvalda regering). Däremot har Putin nu slagit fast att ytterligare delar av Ukraina, Donbas, egentligen är Ryssland:

”Openly, preparations were underway for another punitive operation in the Donbass, for an invasion of our historical lands, including Crimea. In Kyiv, they announced the possible acquisition of nuclear weapons. The NATO bloc has begun active military development of the territories adjacent to us.”

Sedan fyller man på med en ren fantasi/lögn om att Ukraina var på väg att skaffa kärnvapen. Sanningen är att Ukraina gav upp sina kärnvapen 1994-1995 mot Budapest-avtalet om icke-aggression från Ryssland, ett avtal som Ryssland hunnit bryta 3 gånger.

Riktigt bisarrt blir det när Putin talar om de stackars offren för granatbeskjutning i Donbas, samtidigt som hans egen arme smular sönder Ukrainska städer.

Till sist lyser krigsförklaringen och mobilisering med sin frånvaro. Det betyder att Rysslands möjligheter att vinna kriget är närmast obefintliga, om man med det menar att slå ut Ukrainas militära förmåga. Kanske tänker man sig att kunna konsolidera och hålla nästan hela Donbas tills Ukraina och väst tröttnar. Jag tror det blir mycket svårt med de trupper Ryssland har idag (150,000?). Donbass är stort och Ukraina kan mobilisera flera gånger fler än vad Ryssland har, och till detta kommer ständigt nya effektiva vapen.
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2022-05-09, 10:47
  #146671
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Ursprungligen postat av Letsdothisnow
Man kunde alltså inte hitta tillräckligt med pålitliga piloter för att genomföra flygparaden utan skyller på det fina vädret i Moskva just nu
Det lär vara brist på piloter just nu. De få man har kvar behövs ju i Ukraina som målflygare åt det ukrainska luftvärnet.
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2022-05-09, 10:49
  #146672
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Ett ganska måttfullt tal för att vara Kreml. Jag ser inget om ”denazifiering” av Ukraina (dvs att störta dess folkvalda regering). Däremot har Putin nu slagit fast att ytterligare delar av Ukraina, Donbas, egentligen är Ryssland:

”Openly, preparations were underway for another punitive operation in the Donbass, for an invasion of our historical lands, including Crimea. In Kyiv, they announced the possible acquisition of nuclear weapons. The NATO bloc has begun active military development of the territories adjacent to us.”

Sedan fyller man på med en ren fantasi/lögn om att Ukraina var på väg att skaffa kärnvapen. Sanningen är att Ukraina gav upp sina kärnvapen 1994-1995 mot Budapest-avtalet om icke-aggression från Ryssland, ett avtal som Ryssland hunnit bryta 3 gånger.

Riktigt bisarrt blir det när Putin talar om de stackars offren för granatbeskjutning i Donbas, samtidigt som hans egen arme smular sönder Ukrainska städer.

Kherson kommer tillhöra Ryssland väldigt snart;

https://t.me/intelslava/28296

🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Residents of the liberated Kherson region will be able to obtain Russian passports as early as 2022 — Deputy Chairman of the military-civilian administration of the region Kirill Stremousov.

Det s.k "Rysshatet" hos Ukrainarna lyser med sin frånvaro. 😉
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2022-05-09, 10:52
  #146673
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Ursprungligen postat av Skrattarhaha
Kherson kommer tillhöra Ryssland väldigt snart;

https://t.me/intelslava/28296

🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡Residents of the liberated Kherson region will be able to obtain Russian passports as early as 2022 — Deputy Chairman of the military-civilian administration of the region Kirill Stremousov.

Det s.k "Rysshatet" hos Ukrainarna lyser med sin frånvaro. 😉
Hur blir det med ormön då ?
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2022-05-09, 10:53
  #146674
Medlem
Jofs avatar
Putin dödshotad , enl Aftonbladet idag.

Nyhetsinslag.
Därför vågade han inte hota med kärnvapen.

Och ni bara tjattrar ?

Får göra en egen tråd om detta tydligen.
Här har ni drunknat i en liten ö 😡
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2022-05-09, 10:55
  #146675
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Ursprungligen postat av negrofoben
Hur blir det med ormön då ?

Total förlust för Ukraina. Du kanske missade att en av deras främsta piloter (efter Ghost of Kiev) dog, förmodligen var han en av de drygt 120 stupade på Snake Island. Ukrainsk media bekräftar;

https://t.me/intelslava/28286

🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡One of the best pilots of Ukraine was eliminated

The Ukrainian media reported the death of one of their best pilots - the former commander of the 10th Naval Aviation Brigade of the Ukrainian Navy, Colonel Igor Bedzai.

According to journalists, the pilot died on May 7. Presumably, Bedzai was on board one of the helicopters shot down near Snake Island.
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2022-05-09, 10:56
  #146676
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FockeWulf190ds avatar
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Ursprungligen postat av Skrattarhaha
Som idag för 77 år sedan förlorade mot Ryssland, viktig detalj! 😉

Precis, trevligt du håller med mig. Så då ser vi tillsammans fram mot Rysslands förlust i detta krig.
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