2020-07-05, 02:42
  #343549
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There is No heat, it is Winter Time in THE Southern hemisphere now. Valparaiso 14 degrees, Santiago AND Buenos Aires 11. Theyre using scarfs and hats now.

I New York city it is hot, like 33 degrees and they är allways exposed to AC.

Precisely. The virus rages on in the Southern Hemisphere as they enter their winter seasons, because they do not have any seasonal protection to lower their R0. The virus continues in the Middle East and America as their summers are blistering hot. They therefor stay indoors, where infected individuals spread the virus through air conditioning units (the protests in America have likely accelerated this process somewhat, however).
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2020-07-05, 02:46
  #343550
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Precis så tolkade jag också det.
Hur kan dom få publicera sån här dynga?

Allt för att sverigebilden ska bestå. Om vi så dör på kuppen.
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2020-07-05, 02:51
  #343551
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I’m not wrong. I brought up the same questions that subsequent studies have brought up in reference to the Swedish studies the same day it was released.

You are completely lost. The recent ratio (with janky antibody assay parameters) they found was 1.1. The later ratios found is easily attributable to antibody levels dropping below measurable in serum, and cross-reactivity to other HCoV’s that are found to provide no protection. You don’t understand these studies.

But this doesn’t matter, because we already know antibody levels in asymptomatic patients fall below measurable levels over time and is exactly the point I’ve been pushing since the paper released and even before this. This doesn’t suddenly translate to 3x the amount of immunity in the population. If you make this conclusion, you are wrong.
I DO not make this conclusión, The author does:
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Våra resultat tyder på att ungefär dubbelt så många personer har utvecklat T-cellsimmunitet jämfört med de som vi kan detektera antikroppar hos, säger Marcus Buggert, biträdande lektor vid Centrum för infektionsmedicin, Karolinska Institutet, och en av huvudförfattarna.

And another author suggested Long Time immunity as you may remember, I won't bother with looking this Up to you.

I know you have a strong Desiré to see things go badly for Sweden, and even now, when you realized you were completly Lost with your estimation of +100k dead in Sweden you desperately seek for other studies of whatever to try AND scare People that we're all going to die if we don't wear masks, or whatever your agenda is.

Now I have proven all your posts for tonight to be false, I'll settle with that for now.
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2020-07-05, 02:54
  #343552
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Precisely. The virus rages on in the Southern Hemisphere as they enter their winter seasons, because they do not have any seasonal protection to lower their R0. The virus continues in the Middle East and America as their summers are blistering hot. They therefor stay indoors, where infected individuals spread the virus through air conditioning units (the protests in America have likely accelerated this process somewhat, however).
Good that you now understand THE concept of seasons.
And that Will naturally make your next conclusión that The virus Will bounce Back to bite all countries that are unprotected in THE ass at THE END of THE Summer.
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2020-07-05, 02:55
  #343553
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Fattar inte vad du pratar om.
Ifall själva viruset bara ger antikroppar som varar i två månader, hur ska det då vara möjligt att få något bestående skydd av ett vaccin, som ju består av något som är ännu svagare än det själva levande viruset?
Vaccin är inget bestående, du måste upprepa behandlingen, hur ofta vet jag inte, men kanske 1-2 gånger/år till att börja med.
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2020-07-05, 03:01
  #343554
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I DO not make this conclusión, The author does:
And another author suggested Long Time immunity as you may remember, I won't bother with looking this Up to you.

I know you have a strong Desiré to see things go badly for Sweden, and even now, when you realized you were completly Lost with your estimation of +100k dead in Sweden you desperately seek for other studies of whatever to try AND scare People that we're all going to die if we don't wear masks, or whatever your agenda is.

Now I have proven all your posts for tonight to be false, I'll settle with that for now.

Absolutely. The teams assumptions have been brought up in referencing studies and told that it needs a lot more evidence to make that claim. Further studies have shown which HCoV’s elicit cross-reactive T-cells and a further study has shown these cross-reactive T-cells either grant immunity from infection or any significant protection from the infection’s severity.

You have not proven me wrong, you’ve only doubled down on this study. And that is fine, but the study is being disproven. I’ve posted the studies bringing this study into question and about them extensively in the past twenty four hours. I don’t think their assumptions of a 2x immunity will go to print. I don’t even think their 1.1 recent infection ratio will make it to print.

I also stand behind my predictions. How could I not? I gave figures for everything from a 0.5% IFR to a 1.3% IFR based on 50/60/70/82% infection rates required for herd immunity. I also included predictions on the results of hospital strain on the IFR up to a complete hospital collapse at around 3% IFR (everybody requiring hospitalization receives no treatment and the overwhelming majority die).
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2020-07-05, 03:02
  #343555
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Good that you now understand THE concept of seasons.
And that Will naturally make your next conclusión that The virus Will bounce Back to bite all countries that are unprotected in THE ass at THE END of THE Summer.

I made that conclusion months ago. Yes, sometime in August the R0 will begin rising.
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2020-07-05, 03:04
  #343556
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I made that conclusion months ago. Yes, sometime in August the R0 will begin rising.
Really? Why In August? When THE weather is at is peak..
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2020-07-05, 03:09
  #343557
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Really? Why In August? When THE weather is at is peak..

Summer ends astronomically in September, yes, but from a meteorological standpoint it ends in August. July is the month where summer peaks in the northern hemisphere, and August is a month of transition between seasons.
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2020-07-05, 03:16
  #343558
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Sverige och svenskarna är på väg att betraktas som Europas byfånar.
Vi kör vårt egna dödliga race i denna pandemi på ett sätt som gör att ingen vill veta av oss.

Samma när vi lekte humanitär stormakt och alla andra andra varnade för konsekvenserna.
Men icke våra idioter till politiker körde på rätt in i väggen 2015 där allt kollapsade.

Samma nu med nästan samma idioter vid rodret så kör dom på med sitt eget race trots att den skördat tusentals offer helt i onödan.
Är svenskarna lika förblindade av sin egen storhet så att man inte varken vill eller bryr sig om detta utan att man ändå kommer att "segra till slut".

Får vibbar av Nazitysklands politiker och propagandister som förvred ett helt folk med sin "rätta" politik och där varje ifrågasättande bestraffades.
Verkar som våra ledare också idag har ett följe av fanatiker på sociala medier som tycker att de gjort rätt oavsett alla dessa offer som gjort att ledare i andra länder inte vill veta av oss.
Vi får stå i skamvrån när andra får resa, men inte heller detta lär påverka våra fanatiska ledare.
Segra eller dö!
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2020-07-05, 03:17
  #343559
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Absolutely. The teams assumptions have been brought up in referencing studies and told that it needs a lot more evidence to make that claim. Further studies have shown which HCoV’s elicit cross-reactive T-cells and a further study has shown these cross-reactive T-cells either grant immunity from infection or any significant protection from the infection’s severity.

You have not proven me wrong, you’ve only doubled down on this study. And that is fine, but the study is being disproven. I’ve posted the studies bringing this study into question and about them extensively in the past twenty four hours. I don’t think their assumptions of a 2x immunity will go to print. I don’t even think their 1.1 recent infection ratio will make it to print.

I also stand behind my predictions. How could I not? I gave figures for everything from a 0.5% IFR to a 1.3% IFR based on 50/60/70/82% infection rates required for herd immunity. I also included predictions on the results of hospital strain on the IFR up to a complete hospital collapse at around 3% IFR (everybody requiring hospitalization receives no treatment and the overwhelming majority die).
Well, THE studie shows there are three Times more infected than we're able to test.

This means that approximately 10-15% of Swedens population have been infected and this is making THE virus lose its grip.

You're right that it is yet to be proven of infected can be infected again within a few months, Or even a year.

But Common Sense say that should be The case. There Is Always a possibility that The immunity Will show to be a bad thing to have for a second infection.

But that it just would disappear, as you propose, that seems so unlikely that I don't think it is anything to go around AND worry about.
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2020-07-05, 03:19
  #343560
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Summer ends astronomically in September, yes, but from a meteorological standpoint it ends in August. July is the month where summer peaks in the northern hemisphere, and August is a month of transition between seasons.
Well, that Night depend on where un Sweden you är. I would say september is THE months of transition but i Aldo live in Southern Sweden.

Skitsamma, when THE fall comes there might be an increase, but hopefully not something like a "second wave".
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