Ghost - officiell tråd om det hemliga bandet från Linköping

Bandmedlemmarna får viss procent delat ut till sig från bolaget sedan så hur den procenten är reglerad vet jag inte, Utöver lön så kommer det till utbetalningar av royaltys genomgående kolla bara tex ABBA dem får fortf pengar STIM etc etc som ett exempel......

Sedan så är detta rätt vägledande också då Lasse Stefanz var i konflikt med Lasse Sigfridsson i liknade ärende och då fick han utbetalt Royaltys också saxat från Aftonbladet detta:

Striden grundar sig i en bolagsstämma år 2013 där Sigfridsson påstod sig ha rätt till 170 000 kronor i aktieutdelning och 100 000 kronor i royalties.

TF & rådgivaren tror jag ska börja känna sig lite osäkra är mitt tycke!

En sak är säker. Magin är inte densamma som vid tidpunkten för exempelvis Annexet-spelningen, och nu pratar jag inte om livespelningar. Känslan kring bandets magi generellt har försvunnit en aning.
Det kanske har och göra med att man redan från början visste vilka alla var. Och nu blir alla "riktiga" personer.
Förut kunde man på något sätt urskilja scenkostym och person.
Man kanske skulle skitit i ta reda på vilka dom var från början och bara hänga med på image-tåget.
Nåväl. Tror jag skiter i den här tråden ett tag och istället bara lyssnar och ser på konstverket. Någonstans är ju konstverket kvar liksom.

Känslan är att dem står enande mot TF bilden är lite så talande när man ser den!

Det är syftet med rättegången. Pengar är det minst viktiga för dem. De vill visa alla att de är utanför gruppen, har TF sköt dem, som nu är ensam och avmystifiera Ghost.

Väl skrivet.
Jag tror lite samma här, oavsett hur denna soppa slutar. Så känns det som man förstört lite det man byggt upp. Detta kommer alltid ligga kvar som en dålig smak i munnen

Nu vet jag inte vad Lasse Stefanz i detalj krigade om men är det så att man, per automatik, är med och har rätt till allt bara man är med i gruppen och något "grundföretag"? Kan inte alkohol, merch och annat ligga i andra bolag?

Royalties och STIM-pengar styrs väl av om kan har skrivit material och/eller hur kontrakten ser ut?

Enligt den info som framkommit så är det ju inga mångmiljonbelopp det kommer att handla om OM nu TF "förlorar"?

Om vi antar att tre av dem i alla fall är SS, MP och MR så är ju frågan om den fjärde är HP eller MH som ju, i mitt tycke, redan de känns lite "inhyrda"? Eller är det någon tidigare medlem som är inblandad och om inte, så vad tycker de om TFs sätt att, under åren, hantera detta?

De som ligger bakom stämningen är MH, HP, MR samt SS.
Kontaktade Linköpings Tingsrätt tidigare idag och fick ut stämningen på PDF rätt fort därefter.
Det finns bilagor men de behöver man betala för.

"As of yesterday we, four signatories from the band Ghost, have filed a lawsuit with the Linköping District Court. We are suing Tobias Forge (”Papa Emeritus”) – the band’s lead singer who has also been responsible for the finances of the band since its founding.
As of the filing of this lawsuit we are requesting that the court, under penalty, oblige Tobias Forge to declare the incomes as well as expenses of the band concerning the years between 2011 and 2016.
Throughout all the years we have been on tour with Ghost (between 2011-2016 some of us have performed something like 500 shows with the band) and throughout the band’s album recordings, we have neither been allowed to share in the profits of the band, nor have we seen any of the incomes accounted for.
The only thing we have received have been minimal advance payments to allow the band to keep going. This despite the fact that we had an agreement that any profits should be shared fairly between the members of the band.
When we have attempted to raise the issue of the band’s finances with Tobias Forge his sole response has been that there are so far no profits to be share, but that everyone will be generously compensated once the band turns a profit.
The reason that this lawsuit is now being filed is a contract dispute that has escalated during the previous year (2016). Over the last year we have received multiple proposed contracts from Tobias Forge in which he seeks to redefine his role in the band.
Since the conception of Ghost our common understanding and agreement has been that we are a band on equal terms, but that Tobias will act as band leader and manage the band’s finances through his own companies.
Through contracts received from Tobias and his lawyers during 2016, Tobias has attempted to make us sign an agreement that implies we are merely consultants working for his company, an agreement also stating that we would receive less that a minimal wage for our contributions to the band. According to this proposal, furthermore we would renounce any and all rights to music royalties.
All above despite the fact that some of us have been members of the band since its foundation, investing all of our time in the band during the past five years, with as much right to the recordings and trademark of the band Ghost as that of Tobias Forge.
Out vocalist and former friend is now attempting to, in a underhand and shameless way, transform Ghost from a band into a solo project with hired musicians. Naturally this is not something we can accept.
When, in connection with the 2016 United States tour, approached a lawyer in order to sort out the situation of the contracts, we were informed that Tobias Forge no longer wanted us to participate in upcoming tours. Thus, Tobias Forge is now going ahead with the tour, which started March 24 2017 and is set to end in the UK on August 12, on his own together with rented musicians who have replaced all other band members. Tobias Forge has chosen this path of action without any permission from us to carry out the tour on his own. This under the name Ghost, which we regard as our commonly owned trademark.
The actions of Tobias Forge amount to nothing less than unabashed dishonesty, greed, and darkness. Not the darkness of which Ghost sings, but a darkness that pushes a person to betray his best friends when fame and fortune appear within reach.
We are terribly sorry that this afflicts the fans of the band as well, and that they too should suffer because of this betrayal and greed.
<3
We who are suing Tobias Forge are:
Simon Söderberg (Alpha) – member of Ghost since 2010.
Mauro Rubino (Air) – member of Ghost since 2011.
Henrik Palm (Eather) – member of Ghost since 2015
Martin Hjertstedt (Earth) – member of Ghost since 2014
The Nameless Ghouls"


Från Simon Söderberg's Facebook.

Så härAs of yesterday we, four signatories from the band Ghost, have filed a lawsuit with the Linköping District Court. We are suing Tobias Forge (”Papa Emeritus”) – the band’s lead singer who has also been responsible for the finances of the band since its founding.
As of the filing of this lawsuit we are requesting that the court, under penalty, oblige Tobias Forge to declare the incomes as well as expenses of the band concerning the years between 2011 and 2016.
Throughout all the years we have been on tour with Ghost (between 2011-2016 some of us have performed something like 500 shows with the band) and throughout the band’s album recordings, we have neither been allowed to share in the profits of the band, nor have we seen any of the incomes accounted for.
The only thing we have received have been minimal advance payments to allow the band to keep going. This despite the fact that we had an agreement that any profits should be shared fairly between the members of the band.
When we have attempted to raise the issue of the band’s finances with Tobias Forge his sole response has been that there are so far no profits to be share, but that everyone will be generously compensated once the band turns a profit.
The reason that this lawsuit is now being filed is a contract dispute that has escalated during the previous year (2016). Over the last year we have received multiple proposed contracts from Tobias Forge in which he seeks to redefine his role in the band.
Since the conception of Ghost our common understanding and agreement has been that we are a band on equal terms, but that Tobias will act as band leader and manage the band’s finances through his own companies.
Through contracts received from Tobias and his lawyers during 2016, Tobias has attempted to make us sign an agreement that implies we are merely consultants working for his company, an agreement also stating that we would receive less that a minimal wage for our contributions to the band. According to this proposal, furthermore we would renounce any and all rights to music royalties.
All above despite the fact that some of us have been members of the band since its foundation, investing all of our time in the band during the past five years, with as much right to the recordings and trademark of the band Ghost as that of Tobias Forge.
Out vocalist and former friend is now attempting to, in a underhand and shameless way, transform Ghost from a band into a solo project with hired musicians. Naturally this is not something we can accept.
When, in connection with the 2016 United States tour, approached a lawyer in order to sort out the situation of the contracts, we were informed that Tobias Forge no longer wanted us to participate in upcoming tours. Thus, Tobias Forge is now going ahead with the tour, which started March 24 2017 and is set to end in the UK on August 12, on his own together with rented musicians who have replaced all other band members. Tobias Forge has chosen this path of action without any permission from us to carry out the tour on his own. This under the name Ghost, which we regard as our commonly owned trademark.
The actions of Tobias Forge amount to nothing less than unabashed dishonesty, greed, and darkness. Not the darkness of which Ghost sings, but a darkness that pushes a person to betray his best friends when fame and fortune appear within reach.
We are terribly sorry that this afflicts the fans of the band as well, and that they too should suffer because of this betrayal and greed.
<3

We who are suing Tobias Forge are:
Simon Söderberg (Alpha) – member of Ghost since 2010.
Mauro Rubino (Air) – member of Ghost since 2011.
Henrik Palm (Eather) – member of Ghost since 2015
Martin Hjertstedt (Earth) – member of Ghost since 2014

The Nameless Ghouls

Va? Är detta i realtid? Spelas det in någon form av statement från bandet i masker?

Stämningsansökan är givetvis problematisk, men är knappast undergången och kan nog slätas över. Skulle det däremot göras någon slags video där ett enat band går emot sångaren och "claimar" bandet kan hela Ghost-projekten ju faktiskt gå åt helvete.

Som någon annan sa här tidigare; sjukt intressant att få uppleva sånt man bara hört om i rockhistorien, nu i realtid. I dagens sociala medier-samhälle kan ju det här krossa band och enskilda medlemmar betydligt mer än förr.

Det är lugnt gubbar, det är enbart ett PR-trick och upptakten inför bytet till nya Papa! Den nuvarande tillber Mammon lite väl mycket... Eller hur var det nu?