2015-06-15, 19:39
  #25
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you are braindead .... this is no point

get the fuck off my tread, lets get a reply from someone here thats able to use what they have between theyre ears instead of your crying and nonsense ...

lets take a test: can anyone here take this "experts" place and answer why they print money?

This is a question a small child can answer. But that is too difficult for you. They print money so that they can spend money. Any one who doesnt understand that is a complete idiot.
2015-06-19, 06:33
  #26
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This is a question a small child can answer. But that is too difficult for you. They print money so that they can spend money. Any one who doesnt understand that is a complete idiot.

they print money because they thin out the value of money, and the reason they do that is: debt ... usury.. which is why loans against interest is banned in islam, and used to be banned in christianity, which is why talmudic jews and knights templar took that role, both serve the same masters, the cainites. Half of the cost of a product you buy in the shops go to pay interest to loans in the bank - money gets into existance by people taking up debt trough the fractional reserve banking system, and the same ones that own the banks also happens to be the same ones that own your government (trough your central bank), pay your politicians, run the united nations, the IMF, WTO, owns the corporations that soon have bought up everything and built up the BRIC's which they plan to play against the west.

And thats why you are a slave, you idiot. The reality you live in is a constructed one, its all fake and you barely have 1 idea in your brain that wasnt planted there on purpose by the ones that rule you. Either trough music, movies or books at school, all given to you and all designed to make you think and behave a certain way.

And because you and others like you in here, arent able to wrap your dumb minds around this concept, you'll never get anywhere and you'll allways fall victim to theyre control tecniques.

What Hitler and Andrew Jackson did different was they constructed an entirely different monetary system, where you worked, and then the government printed money that represented the value of that work, instead of going to a bank, and creating money by borrowing it into existance and having to pay interest on it. Since the banks didnt leech off the economy like they do now, Hitlers germany created an economic miracle free from slavery to the global banking cartell, and thats why he had to be destroyed. Atleast partly, since nazism came out of freemasonic networks and it was the plan all the time to take down germany and Hitler. Thule netz is just the german branch of the more famous skull & bones in USA which George Bush and other famous persons are members of, and it was thule netz national socialism came out of. Like communism, socialism, capitalism and other isms, its all given to you.

When you understand this, you can predict the future, because you know we're just living trough a script, and you also know where they are taking you and what the future will look like. Until people realize this they'll get nowhere. Mass immigration is just one of thousands of tools they have to get what they want and just a side-effect.

Parts of national socialism was great, but it was also polluted with eugenics. They couldnt give us a package like that, with the monetary system etc of national socialism, without making sure its destroyed and associated with genocide, war and misery. And while christians think jesus will save them, i doubt thats going to happen. That leaves us with an atheistic take on it, and i cant think of a better working system than something similar to national socialism where the wealth of the labour is shared among the people, allthough we could certainly leave out alot of it like eugenics and come up with something better.
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Senast redigerad av sonofsatan 2015-06-19 kl. 07:18.
2015-07-04, 03:23
  #27
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they print money because they thin out the value of money, and the reason they do that is: debt ... usury.. which is why loans against interest is banned in islam, and used to be banned in christianity, which is why talmudic jews and knights templar took that role, both serve the same masters, the cainites. Half of the cost of a product you buy in the shops go to pay interest to loans in the bank - money gets into existance by people taking up debt trough the fractional reserve banking system, and the same ones that own the banks also happens to be the same ones that own your government (trough your central bank), pay your politicians, run the united nations, the IMF, WTO, owns the corporations that soon have bought up everything and built up the BRIC's which they plan to play against the west.

And thats why you are a slave, you idiot. The reality you live in is a constructed one, its all fake and you barely have 1 idea in your brain that wasnt planted there on purpose by the ones that rule you. Either trough music, movies or books at school, all given to you and all designed to make you think and behave a certain way.

And because you and others like you in here, arent able to wrap your dumb minds around this concept, you'll never get anywhere and you'll allways fall victim to theyre control tecniques.

What Hitler and Andrew Jackson did different was they constructed an entirely different monetary system, where you worked, and then the government printed money that represented the value of that work, instead of going to a bank, and creating money by borrowing it into existance and having to pay interest on it. Since the banks didnt leech off the economy like they do now, Hitlers germany created an economic miracle free from slavery to the global banking cartell, and thats why he had to be destroyed. Atleast partly, since nazism came out of freemasonic networks and it was the plan all the time to take down germany and Hitler. Thule netz is just the german branch of the more famous skull & bones in USA which George Bush and other famous persons are members of, and it was thule netz national socialism came out of. Like communism, socialism, capitalism and other isms, its all given to you.

When you understand this, you can predict the future, because you know we're just living trough a script, and you also know where they are taking you and what the future will look like. Until people realize this they'll get nowhere. Mass immigration is just one of thousands of tools they have to get what they want and just a side-effect.

Parts of national socialism was great, but it was also polluted with eugenics. They couldnt give us a package like that, with the monetary system etc of national socialism, without making sure its destroyed and associated with genocide, war and misery. And while christians think jesus will save them, i doubt thats going to happen. That leaves us with an atheistic take on it, and i cant think of a better working system than something similar to national socialism where the wealth of the labour is shared among the people, allthough we could certainly leave out alot of it like eugenics and come up with something better.
i find the economy system fundamental for any good game, or society.

A broken economy system, obviously 'fucks' everything up(sooner or later). - Yet almost all games get these HUGE problems stabilizing the economy, (if not playing with direct resources). although i have to admit i don't have any greater knowledge about all games, nor the fundamental knowledge behind all this economy-stuff.

all i have is a feeling, that., a really good economy system transmits on the whole game and society, from; natural cooperation, natural cultures, natural clans, natural feeling, etc etc.


But what is the cons behind Hitlers and Andrew Jacksons economy system, versus this one today? Do you have any concrete pros and cons-list in delivery,(if so even guesses)?

I myself could just predict that theirs,(Adolf and Andrews) system, would be more or less impossible to reach a single top-mountain, which is really easy to control up-down from(obviously).

So in a system like -that- everyone would be more dependent on your local neighbors or those you have chosen to make cooperation and identity with.

Therefore you would be more needed, to help your "neighbors" and friends from start to goal,(since its genuinely beneficial). - Which would of course result in strong natural boundary, culture and hope for future, since you are working for something yours, will directly beneficial from. - And this would also lead to less need for religion, since your mind can be put in your children etc.

- also worth mentioning, is that i think that a system of this caliber, it would still be possible and allowed to join another "identity", just that it wouldn't naturally be that tempting - - as it is today...

- - well that's just my basic thoughts, that this economy system probably was the lonely one, main-reason, why they forced this war upon Nazi-Germany via brainwashed machine-politicians, like Churchill.
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Senast redigerad av Nurjenf 2015-07-04 kl. 04:15.
2015-07-04, 10:29
  #28
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sonofsatan är en professionell astroturfer vars jobb är att vilseleda oss med oväsentligheter. Personen har aldrig någon frågeställning i sina trådstarter men trots det så åker dem inte papperskorgen. Vidare så deltar personen inte i någon diskussion utan bara håller på att copy & pasta text in i detta forum, som tom är i fel språk.

Det är dags att inte bara låsa denna tråd utan även stänga av sonofsatan.
2015-07-04, 14:53
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sonofsatan är en professionell astroturfer vars jobb är att vilseleda oss med oväsentligheter. Personen har aldrig någon frågeställning i sina trådstarter men trots det så åker dem inte papperskorgen. Vidare så deltar personen inte i någon diskussion utan bara håller på att copy & pasta text in i detta forum, som tom är i fel språk.

Det är dags att inte bara låsa denna tråd utan även stänga av sonofsatan.

Bra sagt.
2015-07-04, 15:29
  #30
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sonofsatan är en professionell astroturfer vars jobb är att vilseleda oss med oväsentligheter. Personen har aldrig någon frågeställning i sina trådstarter men trots det så åker dem inte papperskorgen. Vidare så deltar personen inte i någon diskussion utan bara håller på att copy & pasta text in i detta forum, som tom är i fel språk.

Det är dags att inte bara låsa denna tråd utan även stänga av sonofsatan.

Håller med!
2015-07-06, 02:04
  #31
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Håller med!
äh, detta är inte erat flaggade forums-näste.

håller helt med sonofsatan, att detta är ett diskussionsforum . sen får han väl få tillsägelse att han måste skapa konkreta frågeställningar, helt klart. - å engelska är bara lite kul och uppiggande, för omväxlings skull.


men visst, kan jag förstå er till viss del, om det blir för mycket, och för långt, utanför "lådan". - Men då får väl mod öppna ett delforum i denna forumsdelen, eftersom andra delar sällan tillåter öppningsstarter där bi-nazismish är -ett- med diskussions-topic.


sen så finns det även ett underhållande intresse bakom mer "konspirations"-liknande tankar, som kan ligga bakom. Så så länge man är ÖPPEN med det från början. Så tror jag detta kan vara en öppningsport för "era" seriösa organisationer, att få sympatier, intresse och slutligen värvningar från befolkningen.

Så se gärna möjligheterna med det också , . kanske.



mvh


edit: sedan vill jag också tillägga att jag tycker det är tämligen störande, att- mod stör sig så mycket på mer öppna diskussioner. Där man sedan kan diskutera vidare något, om än, lite löst. - Sålänge det inte blir för mycket repriser av andra trådar, samt spam-liknande inlägg., så förstår jag mig inte på detta "nazi"-modande.

Kör ni aldrig på rött heller? - Är det autism som ligger bakom denna stelhet och oförmåga att tolka regler och mallar, kanske
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Senast redigerad av Nurjenf 2015-07-06 kl. 02:35.
2015-07-06, 12:26
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äh, detta är inte erat flaggade forums-näste.

håller helt med sonofsatan, att detta är ett diskussionsforum . sen får han väl få tillsägelse att han måste skapa konkreta frågeställningar, helt klart. - å engelska är bara lite kul och uppiggande, för omväxlings skull.


men visst, kan jag förstå er till viss del, om det blir för mycket, och för långt, utanför "lådan". - Men då får väl mod öppna ett delforum i denna forumsdelen, eftersom andra delar sällan tillåter öppningsstarter där bi-nazismish är -ett- med diskussions-topic.


sen så finns det även ett underhållande intresse bakom mer "konspirations"-liknande tankar, som kan ligga bakom. Så så länge man är ÖPPEN med det från början. Så tror jag detta kan vara en öppningsport för "era" seriösa organisationer, att få sympatier, intresse och slutligen värvningar från befolkningen.

Så se gärna möjligheterna med det också , . kanske.



mvh


edit: sedan vill jag också tillägga att jag tycker det är tämligen störande, att- mod stör sig så mycket på mer öppna diskussioner. Där man sedan kan diskutera vidare något, om än, lite löst. - Sålänge det inte blir för mycket repriser av andra trådar, samt spam-liknande inlägg., så förstår jag mig inte på detta "nazi"-modande.

Kör ni aldrig på rött heller? - Är det autism som ligger bakom denna stelhet och oförmåga att tolka regler och mallar, kanske

Personen är en idiot. Se bara på vad han skrivit om skuldsättning. De skitnödiga teorierna kan enkelt testas: Grekland. Och de visar sig vara värdelösa.

Man kan tro att det är hjalle sol kommit tillbaka, nu på engelska.
2015-07-07, 05:45
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Personen är en idiot. Se bara på vad han skrivit om skuldsättning. De skitnödiga teorierna kan enkelt testas: Grekland. Och de visar sig vara värdelösa.

Man kan tro att det är hjalle sol kommit tillbaka, nu på engelska.

they arent theories, its economy stupid, plain and simple, and greece is going down exactly as ive explained, out of my theories. The german national socialists knew what i said, thats why they went to war against the banking cartell.

so you are flapping your lips in here about things you have no clue about, and no interest to read about, you guys seem inable to do anything but quote mein kampf like a robot. you arent even able to explain what in my theories thats wrong, you just mention greece and state they are worthless without explaining why. So give it a shot, explain whats wrong with my "theories" if you want keep some credibility. Because all you do here, is sit and cry, and you dont even know why you cry.

the world has moved on, "conspiracy theories" are the result of it because things that have stayed hidden have come into light thanks to the internet, publications and new things that have happened since the 1940's. hitler was just a stepping stone, and all the info is there if you bother putting mein kampf aside and read something else.

my view is you can throw mein kampf into the trashbin if you ask yourself why its happening.. its true what he said about zionism, its a part of it, but the bible is where you will find the answers to why all this is happening. religion is the driving force behind it, not greed.

national socialism has things to it thats good, if we are able to stop it without counting on jesus saving us, whats the only reason i take interest in this forum.
2015-07-07, 05:50
  #34
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sonofsatan är en professionell astroturfer vars jobb är att vilseleda oss med oväsentligheter. Personen har aldrig någon frågeställning i sina trådstarter men trots det så åker dem inte papperskorgen. Vidare så deltar personen inte i någon diskussion utan bara håller på att copy & pasta text in i detta forum, som tom är i fel språk.

Det är dags att inte bara låsa denna tråd utan även stänga av sonofsatan.

except i write it myself unless i put "" around it and a link, so who are you to judge anyone?

if you are interested in what i write, read it, if not, just ignore me, i dont care. im telling the truth, and the truth is its alot of idiots in here that rant about stuff they know nothing about and are unable to see the big picture. it ties into nationalism/national socialism, thats why i dont write in conspiracy forum, im trying to make people here understand how it ties into what they talk about in the conspiracy forum
2015-07-07, 07:13
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i find the economy system fundamental for any good game, or society.

A broken economy system, obviously 'fucks' everything up(sooner or later). - Yet almost all games get these HUGE problems stabilizing the economy, (if not playing with direct resources). although i have to admit i don't have any greater knowledge about all games, nor the fundamental knowledge behind all this economy-stuff.

all i have is a feeling, that., a really good economy system transmits on the whole game and society, from; natural cooperation, natural cultures, natural clans, natural feeling, etc etc.


But what is the cons behind Hitlers and Andrew Jacksons economy system, versus this one today? Do you have any concrete pros and cons-list in delivery,(if so even guesses)?

I myself could just predict that theirs,(Adolf and Andrews) system, would be more or less impossible to reach a single top-mountain, which is really easy to control up-down from(obviously).

So in a system like -that- everyone would be more dependent on your local neighbors or those you have chosen to make cooperation and identity with.

Therefore you would be more needed, to help your "neighbors" and friends from start to goal,(since its genuinely beneficial). - Which would of course result in strong natural boundary, culture and hope for future, since you are working for something yours, will directly beneficial from. - And this would also lead to less need for religion, since your mind can be put in your children etc.

- also worth mentioning, is that i think that a system of this caliber, it would still be possible and allowed to join another "identity", just that it wouldn't naturally be that tempting - - as it is today...

- - well that's just my basic thoughts, that this economy system probably was the lonely one, main-reason, why they forced this war upon Nazi-Germany via brainwashed machine-politicians, like Churchill.

the pros of Hitler and Andrew Jacksons economic system is the fact they created a debt free government-run currency system without using gold, without paying interest on debt to private banks, which suck out wealth from your economy since they have given themselves the priviledge to print money and loan out at interest. Why cant a country print its own money to itself, that represent the value of the labour in the country? Then the interest the banks profit from, go to the people instead. A currency backed by labour, or the work of the people, means the people, and the businesses in that country, keeps ALL the value of theyre labour for themselves. You can find out how much usury cost the swedish worker if you listen to this excellent interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luIvylMyMOE

"They" (the banking cartell under the rothschilds) control the gold. I still own gold, since im not in position to create money anyone will want, so its the best thing i can do as an individual to keep some wealth as the economy go down since the debt go up to levels that will never get payed back with escalating interest and escalating inflation in the near future. Whats left to save in when stocks plunge, value of your currency plunge etc? Things. Gold is a thing. Gold is decentralized banking and an anonymous mean of exchange outside the modern banking system that keeps value no matter what your swedish krone is worth. 1 oz gold coin would buy you a nice suit 100 years ago, today a 1 oz gold coin will still buy you a nice suit. You can try figuring out how much 1 oz gold was worth in swedish kroner 100 years ago versus today, then i guess you get my point. Back in the days they used gold and silver as money:

https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riksdaler

This is due to inflation, which is a result of moneyprinting, which is a result of increasing debt, which depend on ever more and better slaves paying off that debt in the future, which means you get an economy that has to grow. If it doesnt grow, it will collapse. Britain just finished paying off debt from world war 1, thats how far behind on the debt european countries are. And this is how the banking and currency system we have today eventually will end:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEULszUoza4

You can also have inflation in gold and silver, but you need to make a big find in gold or silver then, and put tons of it on the market, so the price of it go down. That happened when the west conquered america and came over the native americans that were loaded with gold and silver (from mexico, still the worlds leading silver producer). Today though, most of the known gold is mined and silver is being used up as an industrial metal.

I dont belive in the gold standard, then you play into the hands of the ones that sit on most of it (the banking cartell), but i do belive in a labour-backed currency. Gold and silver is just a temporary fix and means of last resort. And i wouldnt even bother looking at it unless i put 100 000 SEK into it or more, its more a rich mans hedge. An average swede is better off buying freezedried food and waterfilters.
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Senast redigerad av sonofsatan 2015-07-07 kl. 07:21.
2015-07-07, 12:02
  #36
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the pros of Hitler and Andrew Jacksons economic system is the fact they created a debt free government-run currency system without using gold, without paying interest on debt to private banks, which suck out wealth from your economy since they have given themselves the priviledge to print money and loan out at interest. Why cant a country print its own money to itself, that represent the value of the labour in the country? Then the interest the banks profit from, go to the people instead. A currency backed by labour, or the work of the people, means the people, and the businesses in that country, keeps ALL the value of theyre labour for themselves. You can find out how much usury cost the swedish worker if you listen to this excellent interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luIvylMyMOE

"They" (the banking cartell under the rothschilds) control the gold. I still own gold, since im not in position to create money anyone will want, so its the best thing i can do as an individual to keep some wealth as the economy go down since the debt go up to levels that will never get payed back with escalating interest and escalating inflation in the near future. Whats left to save in when stocks plunge, value of your currency plunge etc? Things. Gold is a thing. Gold is decentralized banking and an anonymous mean of exchange outside the modern banking system that keeps value no matter what your swedish krone is worth. 1 oz gold coin would buy you a nice suit 100 years ago, today a 1 oz gold coin will still buy you a nice suit. You can try figuring out how much 1 oz gold was worth in swedish kroner 100 years ago versus today, then i guess you get my point. Back in the days they used gold and silver as money:

https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riksdaler

This is due to inflation, which is a result of moneyprinting, which is a result of increasing debt, which depend on ever more and better slaves paying off that debt in the future, which means you get an economy that has to grow. If it doesnt grow, it will collapse. Britain just finished paying off debt from world war 1, thats how far behind on the debt european countries are. And this is how the banking and currency system we have today eventually will end:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEULszUoza4

You can also have inflation in gold and silver, but you need to make a big find in gold or silver then, and put tons of it on the market, so the price of it go down. That happened when the west conquered america and came over the native americans that were loaded with gold and silver (from mexico, still the worlds leading silver producer). Today though, most of the known gold is mined and silver is being used up as an industrial metal.

I dont belive in the gold standard, then you play into the hands of the ones that sit on most of it (the banking cartell), but i do belive in a labour-backed currency. Gold and silver is just a temporary fix and means of last resort. And i wouldnt even bother looking at it unless i put 100 000 SEK into it or more, its more a rich mans hedge. An average swede is better off buying freezedried food and waterfilters.
the problem that is. -- in economy-games you can see when someone completely wrecks and controls the economy, and people starts whining a lot to the game creators.

But in real life, they don't really see the big issue since they have their own "local" competition, - and so they have., but what they don't really know is that they actually lack agenda, and in the bigger outzoomed scale; free will.

Since the global economy controller can "bait" the market, they can make one lesser "happy" change, after another. - And as long you can control great scale of the women, + , the current lack of cultural values.., it's pretty easy via these sellouts to do what the fuck you want to. - Its not even, that, hard.

I mean think about. - First you make one minority happy and privileged. Then you make another. While the main-family gets unprivileged. - Then you got first enemy away with. ... easy.

once you hit that peak. - - you can control the women, or the so called Hydra, - then what can save us scattered fools?

I have thought about it in other threads and I consider helping, and joining(short periodic), the Islam, in order to eradicate other influences. Since that culture and religion is so stiff and compact there. - But then we get another problem, if that would success... - But if you have to choose, then what you choose?


- - and yea, already got some of these waterfilters stocked up for me and maybe a few others. But not to make outer currency of it, in other times. -- by the way, where is the simple technique to make drinkable water directly through ocean, - lack of interest, due to too "OP"?
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