Situationen i Ukraina just nu, del 3

Det jag undrar över är hur många av de dödade som är armésoldater och hur många som är Motorolor?

Vad är det som händer på södra frontavsnittet kring Mariupol? Verkar vara lågintensiva strider och skärmytslingar längs hela linjen hela tiden... Har det hänt något större där på senaste? Den sk. vapenvilan hindrar iaf inte att man "probear" varandras linjer kontinuerligt.

Bra videoklipp från skärmytslingarna:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/35panh/ukranian_civil_war_good_footage_from_both_sides/

NATO Chief Jens Stoltenberg Says Russia Has Violated Ukraine Cease-fire

"Mr. Stoltenberg added that Russia has continued to provide Ukrainian separatists with heavy weapons, artillery, training, and personnel. “That is also a blatant violation” of the agreement signed in mid-February, he said.

Russian authorities—who deny providing aid or troops to the rebels in Ukraine—agree the cease-fire is being routinely violated. But they blame the Ukrainian government in Kiev, asserting that most civilian casualties have been on the separatist side.

“This is the answer to the question as to who is bombing, or is aiming, at whom,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said recently.

U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Antony Blinken last week said significant violence continues to flare in pockets, “perpetrated almost exclusively by the separatists and by the Russians who back them and indeed provide command-and-control.

“Every point of conflict is the result of the separatists trying to expand their territory, backed and supported by Russia,” Mr. Blinken told reporters"

http://www.wsj.com/articles/nato-chief-jens-stoltenberg-says-russia-has-violated-ukraine-cease-fire-1431347574

Hårda ord från Stoltenberg och Blinken och nya lögner från Kremls egen Bagdad Bob, Lavrov the Liar.

Allt är i sin ordning:
"SMM monitors came under machine gun fire from a Ukrainian Armed Forces soldier in the Luhansk region."
"The SMM continued to visit heavy weapons holding areas. In government-controlled areas the SMM re-visited seven heavy weapons holding areas and noted that two multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) were missing at one location; four MLRS at another location; four 152mm towed howitzers absent from its previously recorded location; and two 152mm towed howitzers missing from a further location."
"The SMM Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) observed three Ukrainian Armed Forces artillery pieces (likely towed 152mm cannon) near the government-controlled village of Pionerske (13km east of Mariupol) firing eastward. "
http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/156416

Och hela den incidenten sammanfattas här:
"During a follow-up meeting, the local Ukrainian Armed Forces Commander told the SMM that one of his soldiers accidentally opened fire “because they were not aware of the SMM’s arrival”, that the soldier acted nervously and attempted to fire “warning shots”. The commander apologized and promised full security for the SMM."


Din extremt selektiva sammanfattning bör kompletteras med denna information man väldigt lätt finner i din länk:

"Despite claims that the withdrawal of heavy weapons was complete, the SMM observed the following weapons’ movements in areas in violation of Minsk withdrawal lines on 9 and 10 May. In “DPR”-controlled areas the SMM observed six main battle tanks (MBTs) (T72), three towed howitzers (D-30 122mm), three MLRS (BM-21 Grad 122mm), three howitzers (2S1 122mm self-propelled “Gvozdika”122mm), three anti-aircraft systems (Strela-10 120mm), and three towed howitzers (“Msta-B” 152mm)[2]. At another location in “DPR”-controlled areas the SMM saw two self-propelled “Gvozdika” (122mm) howitzers. In “LPR”-controlled areas the SMM saw self-propelled howitzers, towed howitzers, tanks, MLRS and anti-aircraft systems “Strela”[3]."




Det verkar som om "allt är i sin ordning", Sepaterroristryssarna fortsätter angreppen:

"Fighting continued to be heard by the SMM in and around Shyrokyne (20km east of Mariupol) on both 9 and 10 May, with over 400 explosions heard on 10 May alone representing a significant deterioration compared with previous days.[1] During the day the SMM heard outgoing mortars and incoming artillery. On 9 May the SMM, from the Joint Centre for Control and Co-ordination (JCCC) observation post at Donetsk railway station (“DPR”-controlled, 8km north-west of Donetsk city-centre), heard 148 explosions and several bursts of small-arms fire. In the SMM’s assessment the majority of the explosions took place around government-controlled Pisky (15km west-north-west of Donetsk) and “Donetsk People’s Republic” (“DPR”)-controlled Spartak (10km north-west of Donetsk). The SMM recorded 89 explosions and several bursts of gunfire on 10 May from the JCCC observation post, occurring in areas between 3-7km south-west, west, north-west and north-east of their position. Both the Ukrainian Armed Forces Major-General and Russian Federation Armed Forces Colonel-General at the JCCC headquarters (HQ) in government-controlled Soledar (77km north of Donetsk) expressed concern that “DPR”-controlled Horlivka (36km north-east of Donetsk) had become a hotspot."

Ni rysstroll lär er aldrig att det finns "dialogpoliser" här

Det är så typiskt Ryssland att utnyttja sin befolkning för sina egna syften och när det går illa för den enskilde skiter staten i det.

http://www.svd.se/nyheter/utrikes/putin-betalade-dodade-soldaters-familjer_4558596.svd

Nu bekräftar OSCE att strider förekommit mellan den ukrainska armén och de frivilliga.

Rebels in Ukraine have reported a strange incident in Donbass: unknown persons have attacked a position of the extreme right-wing militia.

The OSCE confirmed the incident in a message: “After a series of media reports about a confrontation between the Ukrainian armed forces and members of the volunteer militia of Right Sector, which happened in a military camp in Velikomykhailivka (117 kilometers southeast of Dnipropetrovsk) on April 28, the OSCE observer group contacted the regional leaders of Rights Sector. They replied that members of Right Sector had refused to lay down their weapons as requested by the Ukrainian army. The Ukrainian military did not comment but said that the OSCE observer group should avoid traveling to the military camp.”

In recent months, there have been 17 disputes between volunteer militias in the east of Ukraine and the government in Kiev. Yatsenyuk wants to gain control over the militias.

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/chaos-kiev-ukraine-army-now-fighting-against-its-own-militias/ri6540

Om man menar att OSCE bekräftat att strider förekommit är det naturligtvis bästa att hänvisa direkt till källan och inte till en mellanhand; jag har ännu inte sett något dylikt påstående från OSCE men jag kan ha missat det; citatet i texten du skriver om säger ju absolut inget om några stridigheter..

Tycker 'dialogtrollen' att det är Ok att skjuta i OSSE personal? Räcker det med att säga "förlåt" och allt är glömt?
Kan 'dialogtrollen' engelska? "In government-controlled areas the SMM re-visited seven heavy weapons holding areas and noted that two multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) were missing at one location; four MLRS at another location; four 152mm towed howitzers absent from its previously recorded location; and two 152mm towed howitzers missing from a further location."
Det är inte samma som " In “DPR”-controlled areas the SMM observed six main"

Artikeln publicerades av Deutsche Wirtschafts Nachrichten och översattes sedan till engelska.

http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2015/05/02/chaos-in-kiew-armee-der-ukraine-kaempft-nun-gegen-die-eigenen-milizen/

Det kan gälla den här OSCE-rapporten. DWN hade uppenbarligen också andra källor. t.ex. om dödsfallen.

Following media reports of an armed stand-off between Ukrainian Armed Forces and members of the Right Sector volunteer battalion at a military camp in Velikomykhailivka (117km south-east of Dnepropetrovsk) on 28 April, the SMM contacted the regional leader of the Right Sector. He said that a number of Right Sector members had refused to hand over their weapons upon the request of Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers. A regional Ukrainian Armed Forces contact point told the SMM that it would not comment until the following day, but advised the SMM not to travel to the camp in the meantime.

http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/154661

DWN citeras i andra media och anses således vara en trovärdig källa:

http://www.neutralezeitung.ch/2015/05/02/armee-der-ukraine-k%C3%A4mpft-gegen-eigene-milizen/

http://www.globale-evolution.de/showthread.php/176451-Ukraine-und-die-EU-B%C3%BCrger-oder-Soros-Wille/page45

Känns som att Ryssland börjar backa rejält nu men bara för att bidra med lite siffror...

Här är en artikel som är bra:
http://www.brookings.edu/research/essays/2015/myukraine

Jag tror personligen att en semester i Odessa kommer vara möjlig i sommar med. Var lite ensamt förra sommaren. Det hela är på väg att lägga sig. Frågan är mer vad som kommer hända med Krim...

Finns ju inget i det du beskriver som att de stridit... Ledsen men är du inte lite sent ute? Ryssland är på väg att backa och Donbass är mer en fråga för inter propaganda. Krim däremot kommer bli en het potatis det närmaste året.