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onopono
Jag håller helt med om att mängden rök och färgen på den inte behöver indikera att den kommer från en syrefattigare eller kallare och därmed slocknande brand. Där har A&E fel vad jag kan se.
Är det något annat under samma punkt som du har invändningar emot?
AE911Truth hävdar att NIST ignorerar vittnesmål från räddningspersonalen som säger sig ha hört sett, hört och upplevt explosioner (vilket är helt rimligt), men man har inga problem med att själva ignorera en rad vittnesmål från samma grupp.
Precis som Arthur Dent skriver så
"finns det också vittnesmål man kan använda sig av för att bestämma eldens omfattning." Här är några exempel:
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"Building #7 was still actively burning and at that time we were advised by a NYFD Chief that building #7 was burning out of control and imminent collapse was probable. –PAPD P.O. Edward McQuade"
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...Just when you thought it was over, you're walking by this building and you're hearing this building creak and fully involved in flames. It's like, is it coming down next? Sure enough, about a half an hour later it came down. –FDNY Lieutenant James McGlynn
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The concern there again, it was later in the afternoon, 2, 2:30, like I said. The fear then was Seven. Seven was free burning. Search had been made of 7 already from what they said so they had us back up to that point where we were waiting for 7 to come down to operate from the north back down. –Captain Robert Sohmer
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Then we had to move because the Duane Reade, they said, wasn't safe because building 7 was really roaring. –FDNY Chief Medical Officer Kerry Kelly.
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The time was approximately 11a.m. Both of the WTC towers were collapsed and the streets were covered with debris. Building #7 was still standing but burning. ...We spoke to with a FDNY Chief who has his men holed up in the US Post Office building. He informed us that the fires in building 7 were uncontrollable and that its collapse was imminent. There were no fires inside the loading dock (of 7) at this time but we could hear explosions deep inside. –PAPD P.O. William Connors
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Firefighter TJ Mundy: "The other building, #7, was fully involved, and he was worried about the next collapse."
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At that time, other firefighters started showing up, Deputy Battalion Chief Paul Ferran of the 41 Battalion, and James Savastano of the First Division assigned to the Second Battalion showed up and we attempted to search and extinguish, at the time which was small pockets of fire in 7 World Trade Center. We were unaware of the damage in the front of 7, because we were entering from the northeast entrance. We weren't aware of the magnitude of the damage in the front of the building. – FDNY Captain Anthony Varriale
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Chief Nigro directed me to continue monitoring conditions at the site. Specifically to monitor number 7 World Trade Center. We were very concerned with the collapse potential there, and to do whatever I could do to ensure site safety in that no additional people became injured. –FDNY Deputy Chief Harold Meyers
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It could have been an hour, hour and a half we were doing that before we were ordered to move away from that part of Tower No. 1 because there was an imminent danger of collapse of World Trade Center No. 5 and 7. –Firefighter Vandon Williams
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All later attempts to return to the WTC were stopped by the pending, and eventual collapse of Building 7 and the uncontrolled fires. –PAPD P.O. Lawrence Guarneri
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We were concerned that the fires on several floors and the missing steel would result in the building collapsing. So for the next five or six hours we kept firefighters from working anywhere near that building, which included the whole north side of the World Trade Center complex. – Chief Frank Fellini
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They backed me off the rig because Seven was in dead jeopardy, so they backed everybody off and moved us to the rear end of Vesey Street. We just stood there for a half hour, 40 minutes, because Seven was in imminent collapse and finally did come down. – Firefighter Thomas Smith
Så här säger brandchefen Daniel Nigro, personen som tog beslutet om att dra sig tillbaka från WTC7:
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"The most important operational decision to be made that afternoon was the collapse had damaged 7 World Trade Center, which is about a 50 story building, at Vesey between West Broadway and Washington Street. It had very heavy fire on many floors and I ordered the evacuation of an area sufficient around to protect our members, so we had to give up some rescue operations that were going on at the time and back the people away far enough so that if 7 World Trade did collapse, we wouldnít lose any more people."
Källor och flera vittnesmål om WTC7:s tillstånd hittar ni här:
"Eyewitness accounts of the withdrawal from WTC 7"
https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/eyewitnessaccountsofthewithdrawalfromwtc
"Eyewitness Accounts of WTC 7 Fires"
https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/eyewitnessaccountsofwtc7fires
"Accounts of WTC 7 Damage"
https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/accountsofwtc7damage
Här hör ni en brandman beskriva sjuans tillstånd:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnYBX6QT0R4
"You see the white smoke, you see the thing leaning like this? It's definitely going. There's no way to stop it. 'Cause you have to go up in there to put it out, and it's already, the structural integrity is not there."