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Skitsnack. Hur kan du uttala dig om bettet, fotot är ju inte tagen i ocklusion, hen har ju munnen öppen?
Hej. Jag ska försöka svara dina frågor på Engelska för att det är lättare för mig. My comment about occlusion wasn't maybe clear enough but i wasn't talking about the static occlusion. I was referring to the dynamic one, from which as you can clearly see isn't the right one. If the anterior, lateral guidance is affected there are always risks of periodontal diseases affecting the tooth/teeth in question (
http://www.iasj.net/iasj?func=fulltext&aId=33515)
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Abflaktion av tandsubstans pga traumatisk ocklusion och deviation av underkäken kan vi stryka.
Do you care explaining why you don't want to consider this? As a dentist you have to take into consideration everything. You can clearly see both lower and upper quadrants affected and this indicate that OP has been grinding or clenching teeth. Grinding and clenching teeth are also known factors contributing to periodontal diseases. The physiological movement of a tooth is max 0,1 mm and an exceed in this balance always lead to periodontal issues. If the patient has exceeded this limit you must find out why, if it is either a muscular origin problem or occlusion problem. A deviation of the mandible is also taken into consideration because it might be a sign of an affected occlusion.
I don't know if occlusion for you is just tooth on tooth contact but there are rules to this. He might have tooth on tooth contact but as long as they are paraxial, he will have periodontal issues.
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Den lätta trångställning i underkäken är inga bekymmer
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I disagree. Crowding is one of the most known factors in making it easier for plaque to find a safe spot to hide because the mechanical cleaning of teeth leave some of the bacterial colonies behind. From the picture you can even see that OP has some tartar lingualy. With that said. I don't consider this crowding to be too much but my point is, this is important as in the propulsion movement of the patient is clearly affected and if you look at the incisal surfaces you can see that they are starting to be abraded. If the patient does a propulsion movement, there will be paraxial forces involved since the teeth are mal-positioned. Now, that has an effect on periodontal health.
http://oralhealth.ro/volumes/2005/volume-2/V2-05-4.pdf
http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S2176-94512011000400015&script=sci_arttext&tlng=en
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Det är en hel del gingivalrcession till följd av slitage av för hård tandborstning
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You can't simply jump on conclusion and diagnose this as gingival recession caused by hard tooth brushing without taking into consideration of other factors or knowing the patients history. There are many causes including periodontal diseases, hereditary causes, tooth crowding, etc.
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Kan inte tänka mig att det är parodontit (det du kallar tandlössning).
You can see this however you want. I told the OP what i saw from the picture and what risks are involved in all those things. I didn't put a diagnose because not only can't one diagnose someone here just by looking at a picture but that would also be wrong. For us to have a say, we would need the patient history, do a clinical and radiographic examination. Without radiographs to see the bone loss or any underlying issue then this discussion is useless.
One last thing....i didn't call tandlössning för parodontit....if i did then that would be wrong. I think parodontit is the disease of periodontal tissues and tandlössning (should be the movement of the teeth due to the loss of periodontal support). If not, its the problem with the language