2014-08-29, 23:54
  #145
Bannlyst
Vilka av dessa har ni börjat "bearbeta"för en reträtt?

http://www.inblick.se/Default.aspx?ID=53&Action=1&NewsId=1274&PID=416
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2014-09-01, 08:56
  #146
Medlem
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I can not answer for the whole earths "stupid" population, i can only answer for swedes since i am one. Stupid people in america or other parts of the world is not my concern.


well it was just ment for information, how "we" are being looked at

speaking for myself, im probably past caring but if i were to get a more optimistic outlook on life and ever to get involved in something again, it would have to be tribalism

im not a national socialist or anything like that, im not racist either, but im sort of a tribalist, meaning i have to feel some kind of pride in my heritage to thrive, and since all other minority groups use they're tribe to they're advantage (pakistanis etc are organized into families/clans that work together), i guess we'll have to look at that way of organizing too, if nothing else to our own advantage. Copy the jews or even biker gangs, basically.. kibbutz-building, build up an independent economy, your own wellfaresystem, maybe even get your own currency/banking system somehow if you manage to do it. You are too few for your own currency/bankingsystem now, but a tribe can start as a small unit. Nationalists already have lots of well-designed websites and you used to sell alot of records a while ago (that was a good start of a closed economy that could grow in size). And you got books, videos etc, but with internet piracy you have to figure out something new, namely physical things. Swedes viking heritage would make mead, viking food, vikingswords, knives, viking gold jewelry, bows, axes, tattoos, clothes and tshirts (remember Thor Steinar?), phonecovers, paint arts for cars and motorbikes, posters etc an alternative income source. I have yet to find a descently priced good looking thors hammer in gold i want to buy. Stop waiving the damn svastika and mix in politics, stick to heritage and tribe, open racism is less relevant, you can hate blacks and jews all you want, thats what tribes often do since they distance themselves from multiculturalism and blacks and certainly jews are no better (jews are the worst racists out there), a tribe fights for the interests of its own people, and you guys are after all the natives in sweden. The saami is considered aboriginees while swedes arent and cant fight for they're interests yet being disfavoured as employees, free speech etc trough statesponsored racism against swedens native population, point out the hypocrazy and racism against ethnic swedes in that.

the concept of an independent soveriegn nation state is dead, even if swedes somehow managed to throw out the immigrants, your country would still be run by the crooks that run the UN, IMF, WTO, EU etc, that own your banks, media and large corporations, they would crash your economy if you opposed them. They made sure sweden lets in all these immigrants, so what do you think they'll do if you throw them out? USA would probably nuke you on behalf of wall street, israel in fact have nukes aimed in on every major city in europe:

http://www.rense.com/general34/esde.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9t1ZUUCe-I
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

Swedish nationalists take on it is the opposite of what you should be doing. Instead of trying to conquer sweden with a handful of infiltrated political parties to get those immigrants out, you should build up our own tight knit networks and economies. A society within the society, instead of trying to "save" the crums of an already dead society and system.

Also, remember that a nation doesnt have to be confined to a specific region. A nation means a people, and people can pack up and move if thats what it takes. At some point sweden will be frozen over again, the ice age will come back, so within a few thousand years sweden as a geographical entity is over with anyway.
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2014-09-01, 09:08
  #147
Medlem
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Frimurarna kontrollerar ju redan de nationalistiska organisationerna i Sverige så detta är väl inte en fråga?
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2014-09-01, 09:14
  #148
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Frimurarna kontrollerar ju redan de nationalistiska organisationerna i Sverige så detta är väl inte en fråga?

exactly, thats spot on

if you simply build up an independent economy and work for swedes interest, where you actually benifit from being a part of it, instead of rambling about politics where you wont get anywhere anyway and let the honest persons that get involved in it be subjected to so much violence and abuse they basically have to deal with themselves so they burn out and leave after a few years, this would be less of an issue

Ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country can do for you!
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2014-09-01, 09:17
  #149
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Frimurarna kontrollerar ju redan de nationalistiska organisationerna i Sverige så detta är väl inte en fråga?


Vilka belägg har du för det? Jag säger inte att du har fel utan jag är bara nyfiken på vilka indikationer du har. Själv är jag organisatoriskt obunden.
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2014-09-01, 09:34
  #150
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Vilka belägg har du för det? Jag säger inte att du har fel utan jag är bara nyfiken på vilka indikationer du har. Själv är jag organisatoriskt obunden.

i only know what happens in norway, but if you look at the organizations here, its a sad bunch.. it even came out "sos racism" (state funded communist "antiracists" that think mass murderers like mao and pol pot are great while they cry about Hitler) had infiltrated and ran the anti-islamic NDL (norwegian defence league)

the way i see these groups act here, is proof enough for me the leadership arent who they pretend to be.. when all you do is march in the streets while carrying a flag with a politically incorrect sign a couple of times a year, trying to look proud with a straight back and nose up in the air, while your being thrown eggs, rocks and bottles on by a bunch of kids with masonic millionare parents, plus the way they speak and act, the "activities" they have looks more kosher than nationalist to me.

i wouldnt humiliate myself like that even if i got payed for it, if these "marches" proves anything at all to average joe seeing this on the TV, it looks to them that you are hated ... they think "oh my, all this hysteria must be because they in fact DO intend to put all jews, blacks, arabs, chinese, people with brown eyes etc in concentration camps, gas them and burn they're corpses"

this is seriosly what people out there think
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Senast redigerad av sonofsatan 2014-09-01 kl. 09:42.
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2014-09-01, 09:53
  #151
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i only know what happens in norway, but if you look at the organizations here, its a sad bunch.. it even came out "sos racism" (state funded communist "antiracists" that think mass murderers like mao and pol pot are great while they cry about Hitler) had infiltrated and ran the anti-islamic NDL (norwegian defence league)

the way i see these groups act here, is proof enough for me the leadership arent who they pretend to be.. when all you do is march in the streets while carrying a flag with a politically incorrect sign a couple of times a year, trying to look proud with a straight back and nose up in the air, while your being thrown eggs, rocks and bottles on by a bunch of kids with masonic millionare parents, plus the way they speak and act, the "activities" they have looks more kosher than nationalist to me.

i wouldnt humiliate myself like that even if i got payed for it, if these "marches" proves anything at all to average joe seeing this on the TV, it looks to them that you are hated ... they think "oh my, all this hysteria must be because they in fact DO intend to put all jews, blacks, arabs, chinese, people with brown eyes etc in concentration camps, gas them and burn they're corpses"

this is seriosly what people out there think

I'm certainly not ruling out that some nationalist organisations in Sweden may be controlled or infiltrated by freemasons. However, as this thread is based on an article at Nordfront, run by The Swedish Resistance Movement, I would doubt that this particular organisation is in anyway connected to freemasons. In fact, this article and the follow-up article evidently disturbed a number of freemasons greatly.
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2014-09-01, 10:06
  #152
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I'm certainly not ruling out that some nationalist organisations in Sweden may be controlled or infiltrated by freemasons. However, as this thread is based on an article at Nordfront, run by The Swedish Resistance Movement, I would doubt that this particular organisation is in anyway connected to freemasons. In fact, this article and the follow-up article evidently disturbed a number of freemasons greatly.

depends how SRM acts, do you focus on building tribalism or is SRM's activies more oriented towards futile marches? I dont know this organization, but if you emphatis YOUR OWN GROUP and group activies, could be martial arts, economy and helping eachoter out with a variety of things, and that people who join the group do it because it BENIFITS THEM, then most likely you are not infiltrated by masons.

If the group instead burn out they're members by just milking them of cash instead of providing them with services and aid, have few social activities so the group is loosley connected and let members be beat up without big support from the group, then i'd say its a masonic operation.

Tribalism / clans / organizations should provide they're members support, it should be something i want to enter for 2 reasons: i support what the group does, and the group helps me out in a practical way. Im a member of a gun organization, why? Because i support gunrights, and because i get free lawyer help on gun issues, which i feel is worth the few kroner i pay for it once a year. There you go, i support what the group does, but the group also give me something i want in return. Thats how you must build an organization, if not you will burn out your members.

I dont care who you are, if you are willing to give up a normal social life, your economy and your future for an idea about "the superior aryan race", then you must be mentally challenged or have some kind of psychological disorder. If you feel you are superior that way, the best way to do it would be to hump a huge amount of blonde chicks and make babies. But this is not how i think. I simply want us nordics, or europeans in general, to feel safe, to have a network around them that think and look similar and share your heritage, feel that you are able to put up a fight if someone spits in your face, and someone that can be they're voice.
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Senast redigerad av sonofsatan 2014-09-01 kl. 10:09.
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2014-09-01, 10:12
  #153
Medlem
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depends how SRM acts, do you focus on building tribalism or is SRM's activies more oriented towards futile marches? I dont know this organization, but if you emphatis YOUR OWN GROUP and group activies, could be martial arts, economy and helping eachoter out with a variety of things, and that people who join the group do it because it BENIFITS THEM, then most likely you are not infiltrated by masons.

If the group instead burn out they're members by just milking them of cash instead of providing them with services and aid, have few social activities so the group is loosley connected and let members be beat up without big support from the group, then i'd say its a masonic operation.

Tribalism / clans / organizations should provide they're members support, it should be something i want to enter for 2 reasons: i support what the group does, and the group helps me out in a practical way. Im a member of a gun organization, why? Because i support gunrights, and because i get free lawyer help on gun issues, which i feel is worth the few kroner i pay for it once a year. There you go, i support what the group does, but the group also give me something i want in return. Thats how you must build an organization, if not you will burn out your members.

I dont care who you are, if you are willing to give up a normal social life, your economy and your future for an idea about "the superior aryan race", then you must be mentally challenged or have some kind of psychological disorder. If you feel you are superior that way, the best way to do it would be to hump a huge amount of blonde chicks and make babies. But this is not how i think. I simply want us nordics, blondes gingers etc, to feel safe, to have a network around them that think and look similar and share your heritage, feel that you are able to put up a fight if someone spits in your face, and someone that can be they're voice.


The organisation is indeed focused on tribalism and in my opinion it is a very closely connected group. They stick together and defend each other at all costs which they have proven numerous times. I would compare them to the old "männerverbund" or in swedish "mannaförbund" such as Jomsvikingar.
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2014-09-01, 10:24
  #154
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The organisation is indeed focused on tribalism and in my opinion it is a very closely connected group. They stick together and defend each other at all costs which they have proven numerous times. I would compare them to the old "männerverbund" or in swedish "mannaförbund" such as Jomsvikingar.

ok, thats good, fighting is a good skill to have but do you do anything else than fighting? How do you do financially, which is the most important thing?

Do your group teach stuff like gardening (especially for the ones with families), hunting, fishing, goldsmithing etc and help eachother out if you lack work, do you start businesses, do you barter, teach history, make historical artifacts related to your heritage that are good enough that others outside the group are willing to buy it like gold rings and similar? Native americans have special laws so they can run casinos, saami's are heavily subsidised and have special priviledges on reindeer herding, i guess you cant do that due to legal issues but there must be other things, so the group could stand on its own if there are no society around them.

Im aware the system has made it allmost impossible for any unpopular group to exist financially because of selective subsidies they refuse to some groups and heavy taxes that make you dependent on subsidies, thats why building a tight knit internal economy that avoid taxes is important since you wont get any subsidies.

Do not support the subhuman trash that tries to eradicate you by paying tax and financially support THEM, thats rule #1, but this is also how you start up your own micro-economy and this microeconomy can benifit you imensley if you get it rolling, since you dont pay ANY taxes, and all the income and labour goes to YOU and your group. You are not some fat kaballah-reading rats slave.
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2014-09-01, 10:36
  #155
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Frimurarna kontrollerar ju redan de nationalistiska organisationerna i Sverige så detta är väl inte en fråga?
Jo eftersom psykförsvar, rättsväsen och frimureri konspirerar mot varje nationellt fritänkande och på alla sätt mörkar rikskatastroferna ända från mordet på G III till Palme så är detta i högsta grad en fråga för demokratin.
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2014-09-01, 10:36
  #156
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ok, thats good, fighting is a good skill to have but do you do anything else than fighting? How do you do financially, which is the most important thing?

Do your group teach stuff like gardening (especially for the ones with families), hunting, fishing, goldsmithing etc and help eachother out if you lack work, do you start businesses, do you barter, teach history, make historical artifacts related to your heritage that are good enough that others outside the group are willing to buy it like gold rings and similar? Native americans have special laws so they can run casinos, saami's are heavily subsidised and have special priviledges on reindeer herding, i guess you cant do that due to legal issues but there must be other things, so the group could stand on its own if there are no society around them.

Im aware the system has made it allmost impossible for any unpopular group to exist financially because of selective subsidies they refuse to some groups and heavy taxes that make you dependent on subsidies, thats why building a tight knit internal economy that avoid taxes is important since you wont get any subsidies.

Do not support the subhuman trash that tries to eradicate you by paying tax and financially support THEM, thats rule #1. You are not some fat kaballah-reading rats slave.


I am not a member myself but the organisation collects member fees, sells books and nationalist items etc. As I understand the group has a lot of social activities, recently mounting climbing. You can check out their website, Nordfront.se, although it is temporarily down at the moment.
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