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Eerieye
Självklart kommer alla aktörers förehavanden att redovisas i någon form av rapport.
Slutar du aldrig att bli förvånad? Allting har ju gått precis tvärtemot allt vad du förutspått i tråden.
När det gäller nedskjutningen så lär man nu t o m veta vilket åkeri som drog omkring BUK:en på en trailer. Man vet orderkedjan, man vet att det var sakhalinbor som sköt etc. Vad ska vi gissa på att de får för straff Dr.Dzerzhinsky? 30 års fängelse? Vad tror du?
Ja, den civiliserade världen vet det, vi, riktiga ukrainarna, vet det, men tydlgigen inte Donetskborna. Man ska absolut inte underskatta styrka av rysk propoganda, och dumhet av ryssar som bor östra Ukraina.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/in-eastern-ukraine-rebels-claim-few-changes-after-downed-flight/2014/07/27/b2f4631e-ef73-4cf0-ba82-912c41aa9148_story.html
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Many local residents support the Ukrainian-based pro-Russia separatists who U.S. and Ukrainian officials say launched the missile that downed the plane. And though most locals deplore what happened to the civilian airliner, some simply don’t believe that the rebels did it.
“It was shot down by Ukrainians. There were two planes behind [the Malaysia flight]. That’s what I heard,” said Oleg, 50, a resident of the village of Hrabove, where the bulk of the plane’s wreckage came to rest. Oleg, who would not give his last name because he feared for his safety, watched over the debris site one recent day with an 80-year-old rifle.
“This is our help from Russia,” he said, shaking the rifle — not advanced antiaircraft missile systems capable of downing jets at high altitudes.
De bekräftar iaf att Ryssland skickar massa av sina nyaste vapen.
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In Torez, a city 13 miles from the border with Russia, Ukrainian intelligence officials say they have evidence that a Buk antiaircraft missile launcher was rolling down the road several hours before Flight 17 was hit, and they published a photo that they say backs their account.
But none of the residents clustered around a main square on a recent day admitted to seeing such a vehicle. Their alternative theories sound far more like those on Russian state television, which is widely available here while Ukrainian channels have been blocked.
Klart att sådana inte finns längre. GRU har tagit hand om dem för länge sedan!
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U.S. officials said Friday that some 15,000 Russian troops were massing at the border with Ukraine, a fresh sign that Russian President Vladimir Putin, rather than stepping away from his support of the separatists, may be doubling down.
Det innebär alltså att Washington Post har tagit del av den information USA:s underrättelsetjänsten sitter på som nämligen bekräftar att ryssar redan har skickat över 8000 soldater till Ukraina.