2012-03-16, 22:02
  #37
Medlem
Tjyvass avatar
Jag har Mason & Dixon i en bokhylla. Köpte den för 5:- på ett bibliotek bland de gallrade böckerna. Vad jag har förstått av egna efterforskningar och som tråden här bekräftar så är Pynchon tung att läsa. Varje gång jag har avslutat en bok och ställer tillbaka den på sin plats stirrar Mason & Dixon på mig, utmanar mig. Men ännu har jag inte plockat upp handsken. Är det en svår bok? Jag har en förkärlek till tegelstensromaner.
Citera
2012-03-19, 12:16
  #38
Medlem
Chaco Substrals avatar
Mason & Dixon är väl särskilt svårläst eftersom den är skriven på 1700-talsengelska som jag förstått det. (Har inte läst den själv) Dessutom krävs det väl att man är allmänbildad om perioden den utspelar sig i (samt massa annat, som vanligt) för att få ut mest körglädje ur romanen.

Jag tycker du ska ge grabben en chans, läs en bit och se om du får ut nåt av det.

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Man behöver inte först allt i och hänga med hela GR. Boken är mer för att flyta in i och svänga sig igenom, som en dröm eller tripp. Språket och de absurda situationerna/karaktärerna/namnen gör den läsvärd ändå. Det stora temat är väl mest allmän paranoja.

Är väl mitt underhållningsperspektiv på romanen snarare än någon djup läsning. Men en djup läsning på GR är kanske att ta den på för stort allvar. Vilket är en komplimang!

Jag håller med. Jag var nära att lägga ner GR efter tjugo sidor. Det kändes som boken bara flaxade runt utan att göra nånting, den betedde sig inte som nån annan bok jag läst. Men stycket med cowboyen i världen där det bara finns en instans av allt sålde boken för mig, och jag fumlade mig igenom den på mindre än ett år. "Just go with it" är en bra devis.

Föredrar dock V av någon anledning, även om den är lite grovslipad.
Citera
2012-10-29, 10:30
  #39
Medlem
Kattmattas avatar
Någon som läst Inherent Vice? Är den svårläst? Har aldrig läst en bok av Pynchon innan och jag tänkte börja med den, fast på svenska.
Citera
2012-10-29, 22:34
  #40
Medlem
BradDourifs avatar
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Ursprungligen postat av Kattmatta
Någon som läst Inherent Vice? Är den svårläst? Har aldrig läst en bok av Pynchon innan och jag tänkte börja med den, fast på svenska.
Nej, inte alls - lite av en Big Lebowski i bokform.
Citera
2012-11-18, 23:05
  #41
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Gregor.Samsas avatar
Tydligen ska Paul Thomas Anderson filma Inherent Vice.

Någon som läst nya översättningen Against the day (Mot dagen)?
Citera
2012-11-18, 23:33
  #42
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Flus avatar
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Ursprungligen postat av Gregor.Samsa
Tydligen ska Paul Thomas Anderson filma Inherent Vice.

Någon som läst nya översättningen Against the day (Mot dagen)?
Nej, men jag bläddrade lite i den i bokaffären. Den är riktigt fet, bortåt 1000 sidor och verkar betydligt tyngre än Inherent vice, mer åt Gravity's rainbow-hållet i stil.
Tror jag väntar på Fula Gubbens recension innan jag tar mig an den.
Citera
2012-12-25, 22:24
  #43
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Gregor.Samsas avatar
Tycker den här artikeln om Pynchon var intressant. Han verkar vara, precis som man vill, en jävla speciell kuf.



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Short Cuts by Bill Pearlman

Manhattan Beach in Los Angeles County is part of the so-called South Bay, south of Santa Monica. It was mostly populated by middle-class white people when I grew up there in the 1950s, and was a good place in many ways. I played volleyball on the beach, and once a year we had surfing, paddleboard and volleyball championships next to the Manhattan Pier. I graduated from the local high school, Mira Costa, in 1961. In the first months of the summer of 1970, I was on the Oregon Coast with some friends. We rented a house and dug a garden, fished for trout and crabbed at the nearby dock in Waldport. My friend Charlie Vermont, a poet, introduced me to David Shetzline and his wife, M.F. Beal, both writers, who lived up the road from us in a place called Beavercreek. We got into some swinging scenes, did some major acid, talked about the world.

Shetzline had been a student with Thomas Pynchon at Cornell in the 1950s, and he gave me Pynchon’s address in Manhattan Beach. When I went down to visit my parents, I knocked on his door. I grew up on 32nd Street and Pynchon was living on 33rd. At first he was dismissive, even paranoid. ‘Are you Pynchon?’ I said. ‘Who wants to know?’ After I’d explained my connection with Shetzline he let me in. Small one-bedroom apartment, typical beach digs, sparsely furnished. There were a couple of kids in the place and a young woman with a baby. He offered me coffee and a smoke. His diet consisted primarily of pot, coffee and Kools. We went at it verbally, some of the history of Manhattan Beach, the 1960s, LA. I told him about a commune I’d started in New Mexico in 1967, going to UCLA and studying poetry with Jack Hirschman. Tom knew about Jack and his wild classroom antics as well as his objection to the Vietnam War.

One of the things Pynchon liked was to be driven around LA by one of the young women from the neighbourhood while rehearsing his theories about the defence industry. His favourite hangout was a joint called Tommy’s which had good chilli cheeseburgers and Tom would always eat two in a hurry. He stuttered, and when he was excited, the words didn’t always flow. He told me at one point, almost vengefully, that one of his quests was to ‘keep scholars busy for several generations’. He said he had written The Crying of Lot 49 under the influence of Borges and for money, but it didn’t make money, and he dismissed it. He thought V a good effort. He was at work that summer on Gravity’s Rainbow, which he felt had real prospects. There was a pile of papers on a desk – scraps, handwritten notes, different coloured paper – and he would add to it if you said something he thought worth keeping. He said he didn’t go to the beach anymore.

His girlfriend of the time, who had a young child, was the daughter of one of the women who’d played Lois Lane in Superman on TV. The circle of friends Pynchon had was very young, mostly teenagers. I was in my mid-twenties, and by far the oldest visitor during those weeks. I got the impression Pynchon wanted no part of the middle-class adult world he was probably heir to. He got more pleasure and information from the young, and was in some ways childlike himself. He often wrote on coffee and grass; some of the riffs in the books show signs of that. Another thing we talked about a lot was the work of Rilke.
Chicago Journals - American Nietzsche by Jennifer Ratner-Rosenhagen

Looking back on it, I think Pynchon saw his life as mainly being concerned with writing, and experimenting with ideas in writing that nobody had tried before. I remember one day he showed me a drawerful of gun manuals. He liked to think of weapons as ambivalent sexual components of the underworld he was trying to make sense of. There was a lack of sentimentality in his approach to literature: he wanted it to be great and he wanted it to make him money. Candida Donadio was his agent in those days and I think it was made possible for Tom to do nothing but write for most of his life. And his life was guarded. As I recall, he could phone out but nobody could call him. Nobody knew his number. He also had copies of only one outfit, which he wore over and over – green cords and a purple shirt. Old friends of mine who lived near him said they had seen him on the street, but had never bothered to find out who he was. Fine with him. He had his teenage groupies and when he wasn’t writing, he partied hard with the kids. But never drank. Weed was his diversion.

As to whose books he liked, that was interesting. He loved Heller’s Catch-22, thought it the very best novel of its time. He also thought highly of John Hawkes, whose Lime Twig was important to him. He thought Hawkes as a stylist was unsurpassed. And of course Nabokov, who’d taught him at Cornell. He was interested in what David Shetzline was writing, and said that one day he would find his way back to traditional narrative. He thought the world was mad with its weaponry and paranoias, and that hasn’t changed much.
Citera
2013-01-10, 00:01
  #44
Medlem
Kattmattas avatar
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Ursprungligen postat av Gregor.Samsa
Tydligen ska Paul Thomas Anderson filma Inherent Vice.

Glädjande att en bra regissör står bakom filmatiseringen.

Läste ut boken precis nu och funderar på att läsa Vineland eller Buden på nummer 49 någon gång senare i år, vilken av dem skulle ni rekommendera?
Citera
2013-05-31, 21:25
  #45
Medlem
Gregor.Samsas avatar
Ny bok kommer ut i September. Kanske dyker Seinfeld upp

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It is 2001 in New York City, in the lull between the collapse of the dot-com boom and the terrible events of September 11th. Silicon Alley is a ghost town, Web 1.0 is having adolescent angst, Google has yet to IPO, Microsoft is still considered the Evil Empire. There may not be quite as much money around as there was at the height of the tech bubble, but there’s no shortage of swindlers looking to grab a piece of what’s left.

Maxine Tarnow is running a nice little fraud investigation business on the Upper West Side, chasing down different kinds of small-scale con artists. She used to be legally certified but her license got pulled a while back, which has actually turned out to be a blessing because now she can follow her own code of ethics—carry a Beretta, do business with sleazebags, hack into people’s bank accounts—without having too much guilt about any of it. Otherwise, just your average working mom—two boys in elementary school, an off-and-on situation with her sort of semi-ex-husband Horst, life as normal as it ever gets in the neighborhood—till Maxine starts looking into the finances of a computer-security firm and its billionaire geek CEO, whereupon things begin rapidly to jam onto the subway and head downtown. She soon finds herself mixed up with a drug runner in an art deco motorboat, a professional nose obsessed with Hitler’s aftershave, a neoliberal enforcer with footwear issues, plus elements of the Russian mob and various bloggers, hackers, code monkeys, and entrepreneurs, some of whom begin to show up mysteriously dead. Foul play, of course.

With occasional excursions into the DeepWeb and out to Long Island, Thomas Pynchon, channeling his inner Jewish mother, brings us a historical romance of New York in the early days of the internet, not that distant in calendar time but galactically remote from where we’ve journeyed to since.

Will perpetrators be revealed, forget about brought to justice? Will Maxine have to take the handgun out of her purse? Will she and Horst get back together? Will Jerry Seinfeld make an unscheduled guest appearance? Will accounts secular and karmic be brought into balance?

Hey. Who wants to know?
Citera
2013-10-14, 13:27
  #46
Medlem
BradDourifs avatar
Bleeding Edge dök ner i brevlådan idag, ska bli kul. Thente verkar tycka om'en i alla fall.
Citera
2013-10-14, 21:46
  #47
Medlem
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av BradDourif
Bleeding Edge dök ner i brevlådan idag, ska bli kul. Thente verkar tycka om'en i alla fall.


Den är riktigt bra. Köpte för egen del "Against the day" idag på second hand. En bok, en tegelsten eller ett mordvapen? Kan inte riktigt bestämma mig
Citera
2014-11-02, 21:51
  #48
Medlem
Mikeyjamess avatar
I Inneboende brist så är det ju två antagonister som heter Puck och Einar. Efter att ha slötittat på Maria Lang-deckarna på TV4 så är det ju en Puck och Einar med där också.

Är det en tillfällighet eller kan Pynchon ha läst Maria Lang?
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