2012-12-14, 18:35
  #421
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9/11 Truth Movement har. Bland annat detta dokument:

"---The Hard Facts about 9/11

9/11 is a topic that is normally frowned upon by others who have never done research on the event. When discussing 9/11 to deniers and/or uninformed people, we need to keep things SIMPLE and PRECISE with solid facts that cannot be discredited. In my opinion, the "official story" IS the conspiracy theory that does not stand up to scientific scrutiny.

I have made a list of 24 HARD FACTS about 9/11 that we should mainly focus on to generate awareness and acceptance. People need to know the FACTS!


1) Nano Thermite found in the dust at Ground Zero. Peer reviewed in the Bentham Open Chemical Physics Journal. 'Niels Harrit', 'Thermite Bentham', "The great thermate debate" Jon Cole, 'Iron rich spheres' Steven Jones, 'Limited Metallurgical Examination (FEMA C-13, Appendix C-6)'. 'Nano Tubes'

2) 1700+ Engineers and Architects support a real independent 9/11 investigation. Richard Gage, Founder. 'Explosive Evidence', 'Blueprint for Truth', 'AE911', 'Toronto Hearings', 'Kevin Ryan'.

3) The total collapse of WTC 7 in 6.5 seconds at free fall acceleration (NIST admits 2.25 seconds). Larry Silverstein used the term "Pull it". Steel framed high rise buildings have NEVER totally collapsed from fire or structural damage. Builidng 7 was not hit by a plane. 'Building 7', 'WTC 7'.

4) Dick Cheney was in command of NORAD on 9/11 while running war games. 'Stand down order'. "Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary?". Norman Minetta testimony. "Gave order to shootdown Flight 93.", 'NORAD Drills'.

5) 6 out of the 10 Commissioners believe the 9/11 Commission report was "Setup to fail" Co Chairs Hamilton and Kean, "It was a 30 year conspiracy", "The whitehouse has played cover up", 'Max Cleland resigned', 'John Farmer'.

6) FBI confiscated 84/85 Videos from the Pentagon. 'Moussaoui trial' revealed these videos. Released Pentagon Security Camera (FOIA) does not show a 757 and is clearly Missing a frame. 'Sheraton Hotel', "Double tree', 'Citgo''.

7) Osama Bin Laden was NOT wanted by the FBI for the 9/11 attacks. "No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11." CIA created, trained and funded "Al Qaeda/Taliban" during the Mujahideen. OBL was a CIA asset named 'Tim Osman'. OBL Reported dead in Dec 2001 (FOX).

8) 100's of Firefighters and witness testimony to BOMBS/EXPLOSIONS ignored by the 9/11 Commission Report. 9/11 Commission Report bars 503 1st responder eyewitnesses. "Explosions in the lobby and sub levels", 'Firefighter explosions', 'Barry Jennings', 'William Rodriguez'.

9) 100's of firefighters and witness testimony to MOLTEN METAL ignored by the Commission report. "Like you're in a foundry", "NIST's John Gross denies the existence of Molten Metal", 'Swiss Cheese', "As of 21 days after the attack, the fires were still burning and molten steel was still running." Leslie Robertson'.

10) '5 Dancing Israeli's' arrested in 'Mossad Truck Bombs' on 9/11 that stated "We were there to document the event." 'Urban Moving Systems' front company, 'Dominic Suter'. "$498,750 Business loan (June 2001)". "Officer DeCarlo', 'Art Students', 'Israeli Spying'.

11) On September 10th, 2001. Rumsfeld reported $2.3 TRILLION missing from the Pentagon. 'Dov Zakheim' Pentagon Comptroller. Former VP of 'Systems Planning Corporation' (Flight Termination System). Signatore of PNAC document.

12) 220+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials question the official story. '9/11 Whistleblowers', 'Patriots for 9/11'. 'Robert Bowman', 'Sibel Edmonds', 'Albert Stubblebine', 'Wesley Clark', 'Mark Dayton', 'Alan Sabrosky', 'Cyntha McKinney', 'Jesse Ventura', 'Kurt Sonnenfeld'. "patriotsquestion911.com"

13) Towers were built to withstand a Boeing jet(s). "I designed it for a 707 to hit it", Leslie Robertson, WTC structural engineer. "Could probably sustain multiple impacts of jetliners", "like a pencil puncturing screen netting" Frank De Martini, deceased Manager of WTC Construction & Project Management. "As far as a plane knocking a building over, that would not happen." Charlie Thornton, Structural Engineer.

14) History of American False Flag attacks. 'USS Liberty', 'Gulf of Tonkin', 'Operation Northwoods', 'OKC Bombing (Murrah Building)', '1993 WTC attacks'. 'Patrick Clawson'. Project for the New American Century (PNAC) needed "a New Pearl Harbor", "Rebuilding America's Defenses". 9/11 Achieved those goals.

15) BBC correspondent Jane Standley reported the collapse of WTC 7 (Soloman Brothers building) 20 minutes before it happened. CNN/FOX/MSNBC also had early reports. 'BBC wtc 7', 'Jane Standley', Ashleigh Banfield'.

16) "Flight 93" debris was spread out over many miles. Cheney admits to giving the order to shootdown 93. "shot down the plane over Pennsylvania" Rumsfeld, "nothing that you could distinguish that a plane had crashed there" 'Chris Konicki. "Not a drop of blood" Coroner Wallace Miller. "there was no plane." Mayor Ernie Stull.

17) Bush hesitated for 441 days before starting the 911 Commission. 'Jersey Girls'. 'Phil Zelikow' already wrote the outline before the commission began. Steel shipped over seas. Obstruction of justice. JFK and Pearl Harbor commissions were started within 7 days.

18) The 911 commission was given extremely limited funds. $15 million was given to investigate 9/11. (Over $60 Million was spent investigating Clintons' affairs with Monica).

19) Bush said he watched the first plane crash into the North tower on TV before entering the classroom. "The TV was obviously on." Was informed about the second impact while reading 'My Pet Goat' to the children. Remained for atleast 8 more minutes while America was under "attack".

20) The PATRIOT ACT was written before 9/11. Signed into law October 26th, 2001.

21) Marvin Bush was director of Stratasec (Securacom, 'KuAm') which was in charge of security of the WTC, United Airlines and Dulles International Airport. All three were breached on 9/11. ICTS was another company that provided security at the airports. 'Wirt Walker', 'Ezra Harel', 'ICTS'', 'WTC power downs'.

22) "Who killed John O'Neil?". Former FBI task force agent investigating Al Qaeda/Bin Laden. Transferred by Kroll Corporation to head the security just before 9/11. John O'Neil died in the Towers. 'Jerome Hauer' 'Jules Kroll'.

23) Insider trading based upon foreknowledge. 'Put Options'. Never identified insiders made millions. 'United and American Airlines' 'Raytheon'.

24) Atleast 7 of the 19 listed highjackers are still alive (BBC). No video footage of 19 highjackers or passengers boarding the 4 planes. Pilots of the 4 planes never squawked the 'Highjackers alive'. 'ACARS', 'Pilots for 9/11 Truth'. 'Alive highjackers'.


WTC 7 (The Smoking Gun)

http://rememberbuilding7.org/

Building 7 was a 47-story skyscraper and was part of the World Trade Center complex. Built in 1984, it would have been the tallest high-rise in 33 states in the United States. It collapsed at 5:20 pm on September 11, 2001 in 6.5 Seconds at free fall acceleration. It was not hit by an airplane and suffered minimal damage compared to other buildings much closer to the Twin Towers.

7 FACTS about Building 7

1) If fire caused Building 7 to collapse, it would be the first ever fire-induced collapse of a steel-frame high-rise.

2) Building 7’s collapse was not mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report.

3) According to a Zogby poll in 2006, 43% of Americans did not know about Building 7.

4) It took the federal government seven years to conduct an investigation and issue a report for Building 7.

5) 1,600+ architects and engineers have signed a petition calling for a new investigation that would include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives for the collapse of Building 7.

6) Numerous witnesses say the possibility of demolishing Building 7 was widely discussed by emergency personnel at the scene and advocated by the building’s owner.

7) Building 7 housed several intelligence and law enforcement agencies, and the NYC Office of Emergency Management’s Emergency Operations Center (23rd floor), more commonly known as “Giuliani’s Bunker”.---"
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2012-12-14, 18:37
  #422
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BlizzardKings avatar
Fortsättning från föregående inlägg:

"---Simple Facts of Temperatures:

~1535ºC (2795ºF) - melting point of iron.

~1510ºC (2750ºF) - melting point of typical structural steel.

~825ºC (1517ºF) - maximum temperature of hydrocarbon fires burning in the atmosphere without pressurization or pre-heating (premixed fuel and air - blue flame).

Diffuse flames burn far cooler.

Oxygen-starved diffuse flames are cooler yet.The fires in the Towers were diffuse and well below 800ºC.

Source: http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/melting-temperature-metals-d_860.html



Jet Fuel (JET A-1): "Commercial jet fuel is essentially kerosene..."

~260-315°C (500-599°F) - open air burning temperature of JET A-1.

~980°C (1796°F) - maximum burning temperature of JET A-1.

Sources: http://mepetroleum.com/jet_fuel.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_fuel


"It is believed that almost all of the jet fuel that remained on the impact floors was consumed in the first few minutes of the fire." Source: FEMA. WTC Building Performance Study (Page 22)


Other:

~2500ºC (4532ºF) - maximum temperature of Thermite.

~660ºC (1120ºF) - melting point of Aluminum (turns silver rapidly when cooled).

~233ºC (451ºF) - Ignition temperature of paper (No chemicals added).

~1800-2500°C (3272-4532°F) - Melting point of Concrete.

"Like you're in a foundry."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCdRA09pztM


WHO DID 9/11? (103 Suspects)

http://www.whodidit.org/cocon.html


WHY DID 9/11 HAPPEN?

https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=250998694935803


9/11: A Physical Education (Awesome video discussing all the facts in just 1 hour)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkdnG080an0


My 9/11 Photo Album:

https://www.facebook.com/media/albums/?id=100000214085869

***USE THIS AS A RESOURCEFUL TOOLKIT WHEN DISCUSSING 9/11***

If we stick to the HARD FACTS, we can't go wrong. It's when people start speculating on new theories is when we run into problems that in effect discredit the truth Movement while causing divison. Many of these facts can easily be found by reliable sources and mainstream outlets with simple Google searches. ‘key words 9/11’.


9/11: A Conspiracy Theory (Still believe the official story? Must watch)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98


STICK WITH THE FACTS AND KEEP THINGS SIMPLE! People don't believe because people don't know! My favorite 9/11 ice breaker line: "How many buildings fell in New York on 911?" The correct answer is 3.---"
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2013-01-01, 17:53
  #423
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Arthur Dents avatar
Lite nytt från Pilots for 9/11 truth.

Based on Flight Tracking protocol, the only reason the Central Processing System would choose to route messages through the ground stations located at MDT, then later PIT, over the numerous ground stations much closer and surrounding NYC, is due to the aircraft being in the vicinity of MDT, and then later, PIT. This means that the aircraft observed to strike the south tower, was not United 175.

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/ACARS-CONFIRMED-911-AIRCRAFT-AIRBORNE-LONG-AFTER-CRASH.html
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2013-01-03, 12:11
  #424
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Arthur Dents avatar
Klistrar in dessa från den stora tråden, bra länkar.

Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av sjelvefan
Hittade apropå inget Aftonbladets samlade artiklar i ämnet mellan 11/ 9 - 20/ 9 (År 2001):

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/0...khistoria.html

(Datum verkar inte alltid stämma när man besöker länkarna, antar att de då har uppdaterats.)


Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av sjelvefan
Vet inte om denna postats tidigare, bara två månader gammal verkar det som. Obs. ej ett inlägg i tidigare "debatt" på något sätt Edit: Killen är visst dock övertygad om en bomb när de rasar och tjatar mycket om det, så det blir väl det även om det inte var min avsikt.

http://www.youtube.com/user/tusmorninginsept911

Drygt 2 timmar långt videoklipp från att första byggnaden attackerats. (Först i deras risiga kök).

Det är två polare i början som filmar och snackar, filmaren är lite "smårolig" att lyssna på och han snackar i princip hela tiden om vad som händer. Hans polare vägrar länge att tro att det är en terrorattack.

Sedan håller han på och ringer sin fru flera gånger, som vägrar åka från arbetet och förstår inte allvaret, hon sitter i Empire State Building en bit ifrån. Osv. Äh ska inte gå igenom allt, kolla själv. Men rekommenderar att se händelserna så som han skriver om man orkar. (Dock väldigt långt mellan att något verkligen händer)


"Watch it in its entirety.. If you do; you will have more of an understanding about that day, than you do now. It is the only natural experiential paradigm from 9/11 - captured.. like a time-capsule experience.. outside of the media, and all of the politically correct talking points that were the job of the media to supplant into conversations going forward from that day. This is not THAT, but is a pristine account, the most complete you will ever find, by far. "
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2013-01-04, 02:51
  #425
Avslutad
Det här lär väl ha postats förr så gamla som de är. Klipp från 2001 som vissa kanske inte sett på ett tag.


11 September 2001. SVT24. Första nyhetssändningen


9/11 Swedish coverage (1/2)
TV4, från cirka kl. 17.30.

Del 2:

Swedish coverage (2/2)



Här är en lång intervju som Al-Jazeera gjorde med Bin Laden oktober 2001:

Bin Laden del 1/6

Här är en översättning om man hellre läser: Full transcript of bin Ladin's speech

Här är en video från 2010 på andra planet The 2nd World Trade Center Attack: 43 angles
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2013-01-05, 01:59
  #426
Medlem
Exposing 9/11 Conspiracy Misinfo and Disinfo with Aidan Monaghan

Citat:
9/11 Researcher Aidan Monaghan helps to debunk the POD/Missile/drone swap theory, and discusses other 9/11 misinfo and disinfo, some of which is covered in his new book "Declassifying 9/11" (an excellent compilation of Government Documents regarding 9/11 obtained from FOIA inquiries and revealing the holes in the official theory). We also discuss other disinformation that has been persistent within the 9/11 Truth Movement such as "No Plane" / "Hologram" theories and the DEW Demolition Theory of Judy Wood.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgMjq83Lgz0
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2013-01-16, 13:54
  #427
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TODCDFWBs avatar
Screw 9/11 Mysteries Clunkity Clunk Edition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79cUAiNyjc8

"This is a counter video to the first edition of "9/11 Mysteries". Using their own video and words, "Screw 9/11 Mysteries" aims to point out not only the bad science used in the film, but also the several accounts of lying, quote mining, tricky editing and strawman arguments. NOTE: There may be some grammatical errors in this video. Everything was spell-checked."

Jag visste redan innan att 9/11 Mysteries var löjlig. Det är däremot kul att se hur mycket lögner, motsägelser, citat tagna ur sin kontext och halmdockor den faktiskt innehåller. Den här versionen motbevisar en rad av konspirationsteoretikernas argument.
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2013-01-23, 23:50
  #428
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War by Deception

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=blSifMddGf8

PNAC's war

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TMW7x0fLaLA

Timeline of the anthrax attacks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgKOYv-00Zw&feature=player_embedded

The Afghanistan War was Planned Months Before the 9/11 Attacks
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/preplanned.html

Why did the US really invade Afghanistan?
pipelines drugs and military sphere of influence
http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=27109
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2013-01-26, 20:29
  #429
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TODCDFWBs avatar
Youtube-användaren powerm1985 glider runt och konfronterar truthers. Alla möjliga argument motbevisas.

Del 1 - "Free fall and how the towers collapsed"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmIjDfpTeMc

Del 2 - "Nano-thermite found in the WTC dust"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbjYoINw5oI

Del 3 - "Thermate, thermite and glowing aluminium"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymFYBijuqJw

Del 4 - "How did WTC7 collapse"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PpsCCTMP8w

Del 5 - "The BBC, Larry Silverstein and the Pentagon"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxljFOCZ6TU

Del 6 - "The psychology behind a 9/11 truther"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TELiwR0Olk

Del 7 - "Flight 93 and my final thoughts"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOSMpf6br1k
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2013-01-27, 20:49
  #430
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BlizzardKings avatar
Evidence for Informed Trading on the Attacks of September 11
Citat:
Just after September 11th 2001, many governments began investigations into possible insider trading related to the terrorist attacks of that day. Such investigations were initiated by the governments of Belgium, Cyprus, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, Monte Carlo, the Netherlands, Switzerland, the United States, and others. Although the investigators were clearly concerned about insider trading, and considerable evidence did exist, none of the investigations resulted in a single indictment. That’s because the people identified as having been involved in the suspicious trades were seen as unlikely to have been associated with those alleged to have committed the 9/11 crimes.

This is an example of the circular logic often used by those who created the official explanations for 9/11. The reasoning goes like this: if we assume that we know who the perpetrators were (i.e. the popular version of “al Qaeda”) and those who were involved in the trades did not appear to be connected to those assumed perpetrators, then insider trading did not occur.

That’s basically what the 9/11 Commission told us. The Commission concluded that “exhaustive investigations” by the SEC and the FBI “uncovered no evidence that anyone with advance knowledge of the attacks profited through securities transactions.” What they meant was that someone did profit through securities transactions but, based on the Commission’s assumptions of guilt, those who profited were not associated with those who were guilty of conducting the attacks. In a footnote, the Commission report acknowledged “highly suspicious trading on its face,” but said that this trading on United Airlines was traced back to “A single U.S.-based institutional investor with no conceivable ties to al Qaeda.”[1]

With respect to insider trading, or what is more technically called informed trading, the Commission report was itself suspect for several reasons. First, the informed trades relating to 9/11 covered far more than just airline company stock. The stocks of financial and reinsurance companies, as well as other financial vehicles, were identified as being associated with suspicious trades. Huge credit card transactions, completed just before the attacks, were also involved. The Commission ultimately tried to frame all of this highly suspicious trading in terms of a series of misunderstandings. However, the possibility that so many leading financial experts were so completely wrong is doubtful at best and, if true, would constitute another unbelievable scenario in the already highly improbable sequence of events represented by the official story of 9/11.

In the last few years, new evidence has come to light on these matters. In 2006 and 2010, financial experts at a number of universities have established new evidence, through statistical analyses, that informed trades did occur with respect to the 9/11 attacks. Additionally, in 2007, the 911 Commission released a memorandum summary of the FBI investigations on which its report was based.[2] A careful review of this memorandum indicates that some of the people who were briefly investigated by the FBI, and then acquitted without due diligence, had links to al Qaeda and to US intelligence agencies. Although the elapsed time between the informed trades and these new confirmations might prevent legal action against the guilty, the facts of the matter can help lead us to the truth about 9/11.
Mer att läsa för den som klickar på länken:

http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/11/18/evidence-for-informed-trading-on-the-attacks-of-september-11/
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2013-01-29, 12:58
  #431
Medlem
TODCDFWBs avatar
Mark Roberts debatterar med AE911Truth:s ledare Richard Gage.
Del 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlYVUUTeZp0
Del 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Imd5i7IGo

Notera hur kontakten med Richard Gage helt plötsligt bryts vid mer än ett tillfälle. Detta sker bekvämt Mark Roberts precis har svarat på hans påståenden.

Här kan ni läsa om vad värden John Clifton och Richard Gage försökte med för lurigheter innan debatten:
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3789539&postcount=128



Edit: Mark Roberts förnedrar Alex Jones vid Ground Zero:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXJJbAZbjw4
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2013-02-01, 10:24
  #432
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BlizzardKings avatar
Kanske postat förut men förtjänar en upprepning:

http://youtu.be/_gliHOhXYFQ
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