2026-09-12, 01:47
  #13
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Är du full? Ingen av dessa videos visar någon tesla.
Nej är du? Kan inte se något i mitt inlägg som påstår att det skulle vara Teslor i länkarna jag postat.
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2026-09-12, 01:55
  #14
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Nej är du? Kan inte se något i mitt inlägg som påstår att det skulle vara Teslor i länkarna jag postat.
Vad syftar du annars på i denna mening?
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Haha har ni sett det här klippet från San Fransisco där deras jävla självkörande bränner omkring nattetid och tutar på varandra?
Tråden handlar om Tesla Cybercab.
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2026-09-12, 01:58
  #15
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Vad syftar du annars på i denna mening?

Tråden handlar om Tesla Cybercab.

Det fetmarkerade kan helt klart misstolkas, jag menade precis som jag skrev "deras" alltså San Fransiscos självkörande taxibilar. Dom heter Waymo.
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2026-09-12, 02:04
  #16
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Det fetmarkerade kan helt klart misstolkas, jag menade precis som jag skrev "deras" alltså San Fransiscos självkörande taxibilar. Dom heter Waymo.
Tack för förtydligande. Önskar dig en fortsatt trevlig kväll.
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2026-09-12, 06:43
  #17
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Idag är det något billigare än Uber men Musk säger att på sikt ska det bli en rejäl skillnad.

I San Fransisco så kör dom självkörande taxibilarna för halva pengen gentemot Uber redan idag.

Det är subventionerat det fattar du väl?

Du vet att Musk konstant ger löften han vet han inte kan hålla?

Här är lite uttalanden:
2013 – 90% autonomous miles by 2016. Musk said Tesla should be able to drive about 90% of miles autonomously within three years. It did not.
June 2014 – highway on-ramp to off-ramp without touching controls within a year. Musk said he was confident this would happen before mid-2015. What arrived still required an attentive driver.
October 2014 – 90% of miles on Autopilot in 2015. Musk said a Tesla the following year would probably be “90-percent capable of autopilot.” That level of autonomy did not arrive.
October 2015 – full autonomy by about 2018. Musk predicted a Tesla capable of full autonomy in roughly three years. Missed.
December 2015 – complete autonomy by about 2017/18. He shortened the forecast to approximately two years. Missed.
January 2016 – summon your Tesla across the country by 2018. The car was supposed to travel to wherever your phone was and charge itself along the journey. That did not happen.
June 2016 – complete autonomy less than two years away. Musk described autonomous driving as essentially a solved problem. Eight-plus years later, consumer FSD still required supervision.
July 2016 – put your personal Tesla into the Tesla shared fleet with one tap. Tesla's Master Plan explicitly said owners would eventually add their cars to the fleet through the phone app. As of 2026, ordinary owners still cannot do this.
July 2016 – your Tesla would make money while you were at work or on vacation. Musk said this income could substantially offset and sometimes exceed the monthly loan or lease payment. That owner robotaxi business still does not exist.
October 2016 – every new Tesla had all hardware necessary for full self-driving. Tesla formally stated this. Yet HW2/2.5 cars later required replacement with Tesla's HW3/FSD computer; Tesla currently acknowledges those retrofits.
October 2016 – autonomous Los Angeles-to-New York trip by the end of 2017. No steering-wheel touches, including autonomous charging and parking. It never happened.
April 2017 – Musk reaffirmed that the LA-to-New York trip was still coming in 2017. It still didn't happen.
February 2018 – coast-to-coast autonomous trip within 3–6 months. After missing the 2017 deadline, Musk reset it to three months, six at the outside. That deadline also passed.
March 2018 – self-driving covering essentially every type of driving by the end of 2019. Musk also predicted it would be 100–200% safer than a person. Full unsupervised consumer autonomy did not arrive.
November 2018 – full self-driving in 2019. Musk again said Tesla was on track to solve generalized FSD “next year.” It didn't.
November 2018 – Teslas autonomously delivering themselves to buyers around 2019. Musk said this would probably be technically possible in about a year. It wasn't.
January 2019 – safe full self-driving by the end of 2019. Another missed deadline.
February 2019 – “feature-complete” FSD during 2019, without intervention. Musk expressed certainty that the car would take you to your destination without intervention that year. It didn't.
April 2019 – drivers wouldn't need to touch the wheel around Q2 2020. Tesla still requires active supervision for consumer FSD in 2026.
April 2019 – Tesla's first completely driverless robotaxis in 2020. Musk predicted operating robotaxis with nobody inside the following year. Tesla's first limited robotaxi pilot instead arrived in Austin in June 2025, initially with a safety monitor.
April 2019 – more than ONE MILLION Tesla robotaxis in 2020. This is probably his most famous autonomy miss. Tesla did not have anything remotely approaching a million autonomous taxis in 2020.
April 2019 – your Tesla could earn up to $30,000 per year as a robotaxi. Musk explicitly sold the idea that an owner's car would transport passengers when the owner wasn't using it. That capability was never delivered to owners.
April 2019 earnings call – owners could make $10,000–$30,000 per year. Musk repeated the claim formally to investors, saying OTA updates would allow customers to participate in Tesla's ride-hailing network. Seven years later, that owner network still isn't operating.
July 2020 – Level 5/complete autonomy during 2020. Musk said he was extremely confident and that there were no fundamental challenges remaining. It did not happen.
January 2022 – FSD safer than humans during 2022. Musk said he would be “shocked” if Tesla didn't achieve it that year and linked autonomy to an enormous increase in the value/utilization of owners' cars. That deadline also passed.
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2026-09-12, 09:21
  #18
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Det är subventionerat det fattar du väl?

Du vet att Musk konstant ger löften han vet han inte kan hålla?

Här är lite uttalanden:
2013 – 90% autonomous miles by 2016. Musk said Tesla should be able to drive about 90% of miles autonomously within three years. It did not.
June 2014 – highway on-ramp to off-ramp without touching controls within a year. Musk said he was confident this would happen before mid-2015. What arrived still required an attentive driver.
October 2014 – 90% of miles on Autopilot in 2015. Musk said a Tesla the following year would probably be “90-percent capable of autopilot.” That level of autonomy did not arrive.
October 2015 – full autonomy by about 2018. Musk predicted a Tesla capable of full autonomy in roughly three years. Missed.
December 2015 – complete autonomy by about 2017/18. He shortened the forecast to approximately two years. Missed.
January 2016 – summon your Tesla across the country by 2018. The car was supposed to travel to wherever your phone was and charge itself along the journey. That did not happen.
June 2016 – complete autonomy less than two years away. Musk described autonomous driving as essentially a solved problem. Eight-plus years later, consumer FSD still required supervision.
July 2016 – put your personal Tesla into the Tesla shared fleet with one tap. Tesla's Master Plan explicitly said owners would eventually add their cars to the fleet through the phone app. As of 2026, ordinary owners still cannot do this.
July 2016 – your Tesla would make money while you were at work or on vacation. Musk said this income could substantially offset and sometimes exceed the monthly loan or lease payment. That owner robotaxi business still does not exist.
October 2016 – every new Tesla had all hardware necessary for full self-driving. Tesla formally stated this. Yet HW2/2.5 cars later required replacement with Tesla's HW3/FSD computer; Tesla currently acknowledges those retrofits.
October 2016 – autonomous Los Angeles-to-New York trip by the end of 2017. No steering-wheel touches, including autonomous charging and parking. It never happened.
April 2017 – Musk reaffirmed that the LA-to-New York trip was still coming in 2017. It still didn't happen.
February 2018 – coast-to-coast autonomous trip within 3–6 months. After missing the 2017 deadline, Musk reset it to three months, six at the outside. That deadline also passed.
March 2018 – self-driving covering essentially every type of driving by the end of 2019. Musk also predicted it would be 100–200% safer than a person. Full unsupervised consumer autonomy did not arrive.
November 2018 – full self-driving in 2019. Musk again said Tesla was on track to solve generalized FSD “next year.” It didn't.
November 2018 – Teslas autonomously delivering themselves to buyers around 2019. Musk said this would probably be technically possible in about a year. It wasn't.
January 2019 – safe full self-driving by the end of 2019. Another missed deadline.
February 2019 – “feature-complete” FSD during 2019, without intervention. Musk expressed certainty that the car would take you to your destination without intervention that year. It didn't.
April 2019 – drivers wouldn't need to touch the wheel around Q2 2020. Tesla still requires active supervision for consumer FSD in 2026.
April 2019 – Tesla's first completely driverless robotaxis in 2020. Musk predicted operating robotaxis with nobody inside the following year. Tesla's first limited robotaxi pilot instead arrived in Austin in June 2025, initially with a safety monitor.
April 2019 – more than ONE MILLION Tesla robotaxis in 2020. This is probably his most famous autonomy miss. Tesla did not have anything remotely approaching a million autonomous taxis in 2020.
April 2019 – your Tesla could earn up to $30,000 per year as a robotaxi. Musk explicitly sold the idea that an owner's car would transport passengers when the owner wasn't using it. That capability was never delivered to owners.
April 2019 earnings call – owners could make $10,000–$30,000 per year. Musk repeated the claim formally to investors, saying OTA updates would allow customers to participate in Tesla's ride-hailing network. Seven years later, that owner network still isn't operating.
July 2020 – Level 5/complete autonomy during 2020. Musk said he was extremely confident and that there were no fundamental challenges remaining. It did not happen.
January 2022 – FSD safer than humans during 2022. Musk said he would be “shocked” if Tesla didn't achieve it that year and linked autonomy to an enormous increase in the value/utilization of owners' cars. That deadline also passed.
Ja Musk har lovat massor som han missat, och har många galna idéer som inte kommer bli något. Men det betyder inte att vi inte tillslut får se självkörande taxibilar, och att det kan komma att påverka hur vi ser på bilägande.
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2026-09-12, 11:24
  #19
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Harald.Guldhatts avatar
Från tekniskt perspektiv verkar cybercab intressant.

Helt elektriska bromsar, inget hydraliskt system.
Magneterna i motorn använder inte Neodym.

Förhoppningsvis kommer det en dag där både motor och batterier i elbilar kan tillverkas utan material som utvinns under miljövidriga förhållanden och ägs av Kina.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEBZAA6opWE
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Senast redigerad av Harald.Guldhatt 2026-09-12 kl. 11:27.
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2026-09-13, 09:48
  #20
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Jag tror inte riktigt att Cybercab kommer revolutionera bilägandet som sådant. Precis som ’Gissa vem’ skrev är en egen bil oumbärlig ute på vischan, Cybercab kommer inte ändra på den saken. Omvänt, här i Stockholms innerstad, där jag bor, där är bilägandet redan idag ganska lågt. Enligt Mitti har knappt en tredjedel av innerstadsborna bil, två tredjedelar har det inte. Det är inte på grund av självkörande taxibilar, utan på grund av att det är alltför krångligt och bökigt att ha bil.

Det som självkörande taxibilar kan komma att revolutionera är taxiåkandet, inte bilägandet. Om de uppnår den slags priser som Cybercab siktar på, då kommer taxibilar framförda av människor att bli alldeles för dyrt som vardagsalternativ. Möjligen kommer människostyrda taxibilar leva kvar som en slags kuriositet, lite som när folk fortfarande betalar för att åka häst och droska i New York.
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2026-09-19, 10:27
  #21
Medlem
100 %. Cybercab och självkörande bilar i allmänhet kommer att ta över en stor del av den vanliga biltrafiken. Att tro något annat känns naivt.

Och ärligt talat – så sjukt skönt att slippa äga en bil överhuvudtaget.

Jag ser framför mig att man beställer sin ”färdtjänst” och inom någon minut står bilen utanför dörren och väntar. Ska man till jobbet kanske man till och med delar bilen med någon eller några som ska åt samma håll.

Att i framtiden klamra sig fast vid att man absolut måste äga bilen och själv sitta och köra känns både korkat och onödigt dyrt.

Som hobby? Absolut. Jag kommer gärna fortsätta köra bil för nöjes skull.

Men som ett nödvändigt transportmedel i vardagen? Nej, den tiden tror jag kommer att försvinna.
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