2015-07-08, 22:18
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Jag har ändrat mig. Jag vill också göra pengar. Verkar rätt behagligt faktiskt...
2015-07-10, 07:19
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thank you, but I know that., even though one can sometimes question that. - but all these media, songs, movies, normalize this. I mean., just look whom people have as avatars between Batman and Joker.

Joker is representing annihilation towards the system. While Batman represent belief into that system. - So what they do here is that they normalize that it's normal to feel that something is wrong with, -- so since their brains don't decipher this as an inner call of reason,
-- no one will ever do something. Since its just a feeling and not a call. - - It's normal. Everyone feels like that. Right. A feeeeeeling. A nooormall feeeling. Commpeeeltelly normal.

And when ISIS makes movement. These same people who has these feelings and avatars; they start taking place within the group of "society" again, since their brain only deciphered it as an evil feeling. - - Not that there could be any reason for it in the first place.

It's not evil. Its reason. And if one does not agree with action of these, then they should not take part behind symbols of this kin in the first place. Then they should go all in rain-bow, and be happy.
EVERYONE.

because there is no in between. It's either action. Or its inaction. - - People tend to have 300 different opinions on all possible sides, just to fit in, but these opinions doesn't make sense in a package. these "feelings" which they are unable to decipher why they are there, since it's natural... - This Doesn't suit. Get it straight, or shut the fuck up to begin with. alright?

either one step up for current system and say its all perfectly executed, or one is quiet to begin with.

yea. guess they are looking to make some sick sin-city look alike. And that's not even a bad joke.

i might say what i say to make you look into things without actually meaning it, thats always how i argue. thats what you should think "where is he going with this" instead of thinking literally about what i write. i do mean what i say about the capitalist/communist paradigm being false litterally though, and based on the same economic pyramid scheme built on usury, but im not a warm supporter of national socialism, other than theyre economic system and partly the way of lifting up poor germans and give them a sense of belonging.

hitler was against capitalism/communism and represented a better way of organizing society free from usury which is important if you want economic growth, and we need that or the next 100 years will be a nightmare ... individualism and lack of sense of belonging is destroying our old well functioning societies, nationalism, not for the sake of having more obedient slaves working for a state but more a tribalist etnocentric nationalism represented by a state structure so we dont lose the voluntary social contract and feel comitted to work out of free will for the greater good instead of being ruled over by force and brutal means which is where our rulers want to take us, or we're doomed, and everything that motivates us will be fear and greed. i dont want to live in a world like that.

but ive also said here, even hitler came out of freemasonry and pointed out traits in it that came out of freemasonry and whats sickly about nazism. being bred like cattle, like some animal, killing off disabled, blind obedience to the government without thinking for yourself and speaking your mind in fear of being jailed etc, thats not what i want

if you want to learn about reality, watch "the matrix" ... if you havent watched "the matrix" i suggest you sit down and watch the movie first.

When you have watched it, see this one by Mark Passio, explaining for you what the matrix is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvKEwr0iNA0

plato's cave explained, that some often talk about since they have googled its link to the matrix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2afuTvUzBQ

The zion king:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAnUS3GHfMk

The satanic cult that rule the world by Henry Makow, explaining the religious aspect to it, how it fit in with the endtime prophesies in the bible and islam, and what that means for us:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNk9o1_N57U
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Senast redigerad av sonofsatan 2015-07-10 kl. 07:28.
2015-07-10, 07:30
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Jag har ändrat mig. Jag vill också göra pengar. Verkar rätt behagligt faktiskt...

sure, but you arent from a priviledged family like the rothschilds, warburgs, rockefellers etc, so forget it. they are your lord, and you are theyre little nigger, if you are a good slave they might make a housenigger out of you, but thats the best you can hope for.

And thats why all this is happening, and why they pushed globalism and the complete destruction of the nation state, especially the western nation states, once and for all. Globalism is about world dominance, where these families rule over us like gods, and give you a fake reality most people actually swallow. They think they are free. This is the system Charles Galton Darwin called "a more sophisticated form of slavery", where the slaves dont even know they are slaves.
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Senast redigerad av sonofsatan 2015-07-10 kl. 07:34.
2015-07-10, 09:21
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Jag har ändrat mig. Jag vill också göra pengar. Verkar rätt behagligt faktiskt...

Inga problem, skaffa dig en Bitcoin miner!:

http://www.bitcoin.se/hur-skapar-man-bitcoins/
2015-07-10, 09:41
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Inga problem, skaffa dig en Bitcoin miner!:

http://www.bitcoin.se/hur-skapar-man-bitcoins/

not profitable to mine bitcoins at current prices, allthough there are some money to be made in altcoins..... i allmost got shipped an asic miner last year but asked for a refund instead because of waiting and exploding difficulty, i calculated id make much more on just buying those coins than the asic miner could mine in a lifetime

the problem here is that even though it can only be 21 mill bitcoins and similar numbers in altcoins its an unlimited amount of various altcoins that can be made ... which is why i stick to bitcoins. bitcoins is the digi currencies standard and what everyone use

but i guess this is the place to make big $ ahead.

also im warning you about hackers, and the currency where all buys and sales can be tracked in the bible........
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Senast redigerad av sonofsatan 2015-07-10 kl. 09:46.
2015-07-10, 18:20
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i might say what i say to make you look into things without actually meaning it, thats always how i argue. [/url]
and that is how I argue as well. And, in a way, that's how everyone argues in different amount... Weather they realize that or not. (except religions persons) and those who is completely sure they already got it 100% right, ( i liked the exemple you did with those readins Mein Kampf, earlier.) They are lookalikes to religions person, who ain't open for for new, since they already got it right. "" DONT QUESTION ME - IT IT WHAT IT IS ""

- Even "Experten" argues like you do, even though his style is more stiff and correct. -- Because only religions people aren't open for new information, and how to math it into their preknowledge. Change is strength, if it has purpose.

Because I truly believe that in the end the very most of us has the same very goals. - Which is to do what is right.

Whether it is Christianity, Islam, Isis, Nazism, red-blue "democratic"/communism, etc etc. - I believe we all want to have a goal towards what we think is right. - And sometimes we use harsh words of offence,- and sometimes when it has purpose to reach that goal, to what is right, - we use whatever force is needed.

I mean - even these bank-families might even do what they think is the best for "whatever the cause", in the final end. + also their supporters who says " whatever let them rule, and hope for the best".


And that last sentence. I have no problem respecting that opinion, to those few who says it that ways. - BUT then people SHOULD BE ENLIGHTENED THAT THEY HAVE NO POWER, and STOP LIE. - - because i maybe can accept it too. ((MAYBE)) - - but not with all these liers around me, who think they are something, with all their tacky opinions without reasons. - They are all loyal dogs. And they should know their place - - only then, maybe, I will join their sheep-nest of surrender and barbies, again.

but as we all know: a slave who doesn't know what it is. probably perform better than one who knows, -or atleast it needs more medicine.

Peace
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Senast redigerad av Nurjenf 2015-07-10 kl. 19:04.
2015-07-10, 19:24
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and that is how I argue as well. And, in a way, that's how everyone argues in different amount... Weather they realize that or not. (except religions persons) and those who is completely sure they already got it 100% right, ( i liked the exemple you did with those readins Mein Kampf, earlier.) They are lookalikes to religions person, who ain't open for for new, since they already got it right. "" DONT QUESTION ME - IT IT WHAT IT IS ""

- Even "Experten" argues like you do, even though his style is more stiff and correct. -- Because only religions people aren't open for new information, and how to math it into their preknowledge. Change is strength, if it has purpose.

Because I truly believe that in the end the very most of us has the same very goals. - Which is to do what is right.

Whether it is Christianity, Islam, Isis, Nazism, red-blue "democratic"/communism, etc etc. - I believe we all want to have a goal towards what we think is right. - And sometimes we use harsh words of offence,- and sometimes when it has purpose to reach that goal, to what is right, - we use whatever force is needed.

I mean - even these bank-families might even do what they think is the best for "whatever the cause", in the final end. + also their supporters who says " whatever let them rule, and hope for the best".


And that last sentence. I have no problem respecting that opinion, to those few who says it that ways. - BUT then people SHOULD BE ENLIGHTENED THAT THEY HAVE NO POWER, and STOP LIE. - - because i maybe can accept it too. ((MAYBE)) - - but not with all these liers around me, who think they are something, with all their tacky opinions without reasons. - They are all loyal dogs. And they should know their place - - only then, maybe, I will join their sheep-nest of surrender and barbies, again.

but as we all know: a slave who doesn't know what it is. probably perform better than one who knows, -or atleast it needs more medicine.

Peace

+1

there is nothing relevant to the debate here i disagree with except for you comparing me to the "expert"

but there is really a religious aspect to this system .. i think you'll figure it out eventually because you are the type that think and question things. The devil is in the details, thats where you'll see him.. The devil is the deciever. Because thats how this system is set up. As a con. Make you crave bad things that make you sick or kills you, give complicated solutions to simple things like slaving in a miserable job to buy expensive synthetically produced vitamin d, doctors apointment and treatment for depression while all you need is a few minutes in the sun each day to get the vitamin d you need and treat your depression, make you chase money someone printed out of thin air and go into debt for life to buy stuff you are told you have to have to impress others, saying you love multiculture to fit in and be popular while the honest truth is you hate it, making you waste your life on being miserable.

thats also platos cave
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Senast redigerad av sonofsatan 2015-07-10 kl. 20:19.
2015-07-11, 02:11
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+1

there is nothing relevant to the debate here i disagree with except for you comparing me to the "expert"

but there is really a religious aspect to this system .. i think you'll figure it out eventually because you are the type that think and question things. The devil is in the details, thats where you'll see him.. The devil is the deciever. Because thats how this system is set up. As a con. Make you crave bad things that make you sick or kills you, give complicated solutions to simple things like slaving in a miserable job to buy expensive synthetically produced vitamin d, doctors apointment and treatment for depression while all you need is a few minutes in the sun each day to get the vitamin d you need and treat your depression, make you chase money someone printed out of thin air and go into debt for life to buy stuff you are told you have to have to impress others, saying you love multiculture to fit in and be popular while the honest truth is you hate it, making you waste your life on being miserable.

thats also platos cave
I don't believe in one big human orgy. Because humans don't work that way - - And this is probably why they are coming up with all these other tacky thing, as humancaused clime threat etc.
Because people needs something they are fighting/competition: "If i recycle this in a perfect way, i am fighting back the monster..." -- and maybe they can trick brain, but not mine.


what humans deserves is truth, and honesty.

Only if you believe in me, i can believe in you. - Because if you dont believe in me, you might dominate n use me. So therefore, i will have to dominate you first. - - And this is where all paranoia comes from in the first place. - Since these family-cartels ain't sharing knowledge and influence with us since we don't have any shared cultural pride and values.


-- however I also believe Competition is fundamental for nations, because it leads to companionship. - I believe in racism, and the good that comes from it, - but of course we need to understand it. without racism, we will start hating stuff for no reason, or alternatively getting some symptoms via depression~,.. or other ways to trick the brain to lower its senses.

Personally I never understand people who tries not to hate,- instead of understanding it. and learn from it.

however i feel the single most dangerous persons is those who lies or double-plays. -thats the single most dangerous for any good society.

and that is something women are representing.- because not only are they born highly potential double-players and sellouts, but also in a system that is built around egoist agenda, without outer pride. - but not only that., they are raised in a way that doesn't teach them to reduce this primitive, and become civilized people.
- so therefore "They" are destroying our Nations and its core. - or rather those who doesn't teach them...- but no one will teach anyone since there is no duty nor true Nations, and therefore its not beneficial.


And also, after europeans christinaty-era, we are left in a vacuum; without roles. Where as we follow, the market- and, ofc, usselves.- - But people aren't that strong. People will sooner or later fall in for the power of the market. if tomorrow or its morrow...

without true Nations we will lose our feeling of true belonging.- and without belonging you wont ever get influence into the system, since you have no outer pride. and therefore you can't be trusted.

nationalsocialism~ is simply built around understanding, trust and nature,- while democracy and communism is built around submission and ignorance. - - And that is why we need all these medicines, just to ignore our feelings. or for instance why we are always told the best thing is to ignore an annoying person instead of manner and make sense. Because that doesnt give YOU something...
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Senast redigerad av Nurjenf 2015-07-11 kl. 02:23.
2015-07-11, 14:03
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I don't believe in one big human orgy. Because humans don't work that way - - And this is probably why they are coming up with all these other tacky thing, as humancaused clime threat etc.
Because people needs something they are fighting/competition: "If i recycle this in a perfect way, i am fighting back the monster..." -- and maybe they can trick brain, but not mine.


what humans deserves is truth, and honesty.

Only if you believe in me, i can believe in you. - Because if you dont believe in me, you might dominate n use me. So therefore, i will have to dominate you first. - - And this is where all paranoia comes from in the first place. - Since these family-cartels ain't sharing knowledge and influence with us since we don't have any shared cultural pride and values.


-- however I also believe Competition is fundamental for nations, because it leads to companionship. - I believe in racism, and the good that comes from it, - but of course we need to understand it. without racism, we will start hating stuff for no reason, or alternatively getting some symptoms via depression~,.. or other ways to trick the brain to lower its senses.

Personally I never understand people who tries not to hate,- instead of understanding it. and learn from it.

however i feel the single most dangerous persons is those who lies or double-plays. -thats the single most dangerous for any good society.

and that is something women are representing.- because not only are they born highly potential double-players and sellouts, but also in a system that is built around egoist agenda, without outer pride. - but not only that., they are raised in a way that doesn't teach them to reduce this primitive, and become civilized people.
- so therefore "They" are destroying our Nations and its core. - or rather those who doesn't teach them...- but no one will teach anyone since there is no duty nor true Nations, and therefore its not beneficial.


And also, after europeans christinaty-era, we are left in a vacuum; without roles. Where as we follow, the market- and, ofc, usselves.- - But people aren't that strong. People will sooner or later fall in for the power of the market. if tomorrow or its morrow...

without true Nations we will lose our feeling of true belonging.- and without belonging you wont ever get influence into the system, since you have no outer pride. and therefore you can't be trusted.

nationalsocialism~ is simply built around understanding, trust and nature,- while democracy and communism is built around submission and ignorance. - - And that is why we need all these medicines, just to ignore our feelings. or for instance why we are always told the best thing is to ignore an annoying person instead of manner and make sense. Because that doesnt give YOU something...

Vet du vad marknaden är? Det är marknaden. Det vill säga marknaden gör varor och tjänster. Det vill säga allmänheten. Det är lustigt att det låter exakt likadant från "rödingar" om "marknaden". Och om Palestina.

Du skriver om nationalsocialism. Ska vi kontrollera det mot verkligheten? Vad finner vi då? Jo: Fadren och hans drängar.

Det blir ett skämt.
2015-07-11, 21:41
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I don't believe in one big human orgy. Because humans don't work that way - - And this is probably why they are coming up with all these other tacky thing, as humancaused clime threat etc.
Because people needs something they are fighting/competition: "If i recycle this in a perfect way, i am fighting back the monster..." -- and maybe they can trick brain, but not mine.


what humans deserves is truth, and honesty.

Only if you believe in me, i can believe in you. - Because if you dont believe in me, you might dominate n use me. So therefore, i will have to dominate you first. - - And this is where all paranoia comes from in the first place. - Since these family-cartels ain't sharing knowledge and influence with us since we don't have any shared cultural pride and values.


-- however I also believe Competition is fundamental for nations, because it leads to companionship. - I believe in racism, and the good that comes from it, - but of course we need to understand it. without racism, we will start hating stuff for no reason, or alternatively getting some symptoms via depression~,.. or other ways to trick the brain to lower its senses.

Personally I never understand people who tries not to hate,- instead of understanding it. and learn from it.

however i feel the single most dangerous persons is those who lies or double-plays. -thats the single most dangerous for any good society.

and that is something women are representing.- because not only are they born highly potential double-players and sellouts, but also in a system that is built around egoist agenda, without outer pride. - but not only that., they are raised in a way that doesn't teach them to reduce this primitive, and become civilized people.
- so therefore "They" are destroying our Nations and its core. - or rather those who doesn't teach them...- but no one will teach anyone since there is no duty nor true Nations, and therefore its not beneficial.


And also, after europeans christinaty-era, we are left in a vacuum; without roles. Where as we follow, the market- and, ofc, usselves.- - But people aren't that strong. People will sooner or later fall in for the power of the market. if tomorrow or its morrow...

without true Nations we will lose our feeling of true belonging.- and without belonging you wont ever get influence into the system, since you have no outer pride. and therefore you can't be trusted.

nationalsocialism~ is simply built around understanding, trust and nature,- while democracy and communism is built around submission and ignorance. - - And that is why we need all these medicines, just to ignore our feelings. or for instance why we are always told the best thing is to ignore an annoying person instead of manner and make sense. Because that doesnt give YOU something...

If you have seen matrix, the name of the character is "neo".

Neo is an acronym for "the new man". Neo, the new man, trough his battles against the matrix, or the system, eventually discovers the french guy thats called "the merogovingian", representing the cainites in our real world and the devil himself (the cainites i talk about is these folks, remants of a jewish cainite priesthood that met up with norwegians and started what we know today as freemasonry):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minor_characters_in_the_Matrix_series#Mero vingian

A movie-clip with him here, if you arent sure who this carachter is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knFmjVf0jVk

National socialists also talks about "the new man", taking humanity up to a higher level, a superior being, where the sickly, ugly and poor and especially the ones with low IQ is eliminated. Satan love intelligent people, luciferianism is worship of the intellect, so even if you know this you really have nothing to fear directly from him because the devil like you're cleverness, and same go for chrisitans. Satans job is to decieve you.

Allthough the stories about the holocaust is a lie because Hitlers job, from the cainites masonic servants in thule netz, was to chase the jews to Israel since jews has a special role to play in the devils plan, the devil that gave them the talmud wanted to save them for a special occasion later where the jews that decided to not follow the torah and instead listen to the zionists and move to israel will be killed. So Hitler only wanted to relocate them to israel, not murder them (this time).. Jews that dont follow the zionist talmud and stick with the torah, know jews will never have any homeland, and are condemned to live as minorities spread out over the planet. But even though the holocaust is made up, Hitler certainly murdered masses of germans. Disabled, mentally handicapped people etc.

This was neo, or "the new man", acording to the national socialists, but they like the jews, are just a stepping stone and means to an end to move us into the next chapter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6WeU2vg0KQ

This has been hundreds of years in the making. We're living in the endtimes right now, and acording to the cainites, we moved out of the age of piscies, or the age of fishes, in 2013. 2013 was also the chinese year of the snake that the cainites use as theyre symbol. We're now in the technotronic era, where bible prophesies will be fullfilled before we enter the age of aquarius. The technotronic era will have high inflation and mass poverty world wide, since we're moving into a new cashless currency system where all purchases will be tracked, just like the bible says.

The bible also says:

http://biblehub.com/revelation/3-9.htm

"Look, I will force those who belong to Satan's synagogue--those liars who say they are Jews but are not--to come and bow down at your feet. They will acknowledge that you are the ones I love."

Cainites are not jews, they are of aryan origins (sumer), and they called themselves phoenicians for a period.

You fail to see the big picture. We're living trough a script. Dan Browns "DaVinci code" were a hint, with a wide range of other movies hinting at how the reality you live in really works. Lots of people see reality like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5la56rjkdM0

...from "they live". This is how i saw reality when i was a teenager. And while its correct, you dont really know whats going on before you go into the religous aspect of it. It was hard for me, im not a supersticious person, but i cant deny that what runs the system is exactly like the bible says, satan rules on earth.
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Senast redigerad av sonofsatan 2015-07-11 kl. 22:05.
2015-07-11, 22:54
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Vet du vad marknaden är? Det är marknaden. Det vill säga marknaden gör varor och tjänster. Det vill säga allmänheten. Det är lustigt att det låter exakt likadant från "rödingar" om "marknaden". Och om Palestina.

Du skriver om nationalsocialism. Ska vi kontrollera det mot verkligheten? Vad finner vi då? Jo: Fadren och hans drängar.

Det blir ett skämt.

when you realize the entire economy is a hoax, there to benifit a small click of satanists trough the banking system that zionist jews that abandoned the torah and true judaism and satan worshippers from masonic/knights templar-type societies run for them, you see satan in the works, like anything else. You also know the more complicated technology you get, the more fragile it will be until it eventually fail, so even alot of science is a hoax.

Good technology is simple technology, i know alot about this since im into guns. AK47's and glocks with its striker system are among the simplest designed guns ever made, very few and fairly big parts, and they are known to be the best working and most reliable mechanisms ever designed, and for a soldier this is key, if you have a gun that fails when you are in the thick of it, you will die. The more complicated a weapon get the more likely it is for something to go wrong. You can transfer this to any technology, from cars to electronics. So i think there is a limit to science, like with eugenics, that man will never put himself above god, which is the ultimate goal of science (and eugenics), and therefore, even science, in the end, is a hoax, just like our economy. God is represented by nature, mankind can only lift himself up to a certain level above that before he will fail.

The unabomber realized technology would be the curse of mankind and wrote books and tried to raise peoples attension blowing up bombs. I dont belive you can raise peoples attension by blowing up bombs. Think someone will say: "Oh that unabomber? yes he was a wise man", no they will think the unabomber was a nutter. I think the only way to fight this system is that people have to see all this for themselves. The only way out is to point out the emperor, or satan, has no clothes and that we stop falling for his tricks.
2015-07-16, 00:34
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another thing i started thinking about is "expertens" words about YOU being an "astroturfer"


if we are thinking it through. - The greatest threat to those who feel they have a lot to lose(which is especially those with connection circling around current currency-system)

This is the single most central question - the economy system -.

- And talking about "astroturfer",..; the only people i see would go that far to pay real professional people for protection is those in current command.

And from what we can read on this forum is that there isn't really many nationalsocialist who grabs the economy part, - there's isn't even any greater thread about it...!!

- It feels like 99.9% is "nationalists" protecting the current system. SO... instead of enabling a TRUE opposite option to the current system., they are instead protecting it, and "waiting for the time when """THEY""" will take command."

and i mean. Who the fuck are "they"?
- Its the same people for christ sake. - They, "the nationalist", will still have to follow the market if they want any influence what so ever in the world. Otherwise they will still be dressed like barbies., - - but this time with force and without microphone...


I wonder if these people who think they represent another option. Really have been thinking this through. - As i see it. Im not really afraid of Putin and Russia. - because what can he do is; making a total-stat, where as he put this extreme "north-korea rules", ((which would ofc never work))...

and the second option is that he kills us and let his russian people live "here" etc... - but they are pretty normal people, and they are pretty much like us (overall)...

and the third option is that he just let us live here and then we are pretty much on the same spot as the nationalists who thinks they dont have to follow the market with the current
economy system (if they want influence and independence)

So Russia and todays "nationalists" is pretty much representing the same lack of influences to the people who lives here in Sweden.

- The only option is nationalsocialism~~ with that banking system. The ethnic part we can actually put aside. And only focus on one thing at the time. and then create afterwards, - together.

but i mean to continue go with this "autostrrfer" and , i truly beleive that they are misleading these nationalists who doesn't really think this through(some do ofc, -but most don't). Because I believe most of these want independence and change from current slavery system

but how ironic, they are protecting it... they are just like the same zombies as the rest of those who follow the system. - Unable to grab the whole picture because THEY DONT THINK ALONE
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