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"Suleiman is basically a continuation of the same policy that has already lost out," Salah Bassiuni, a 59-year-old construction supervisor, said yesterday, on his way to the square.

"He and all the other ministers appointed are the same people who always supported Mubarak and his system. Suleiman is still a general, and even though we love the army, right now we need a civil defense that will be appointed as a result of free elections."

Mohammed Salah, 26, said Suleiman's appointment doesn't change what's going on behind the scenes.

"Mubarak is still the brains," said Salah, an accountant. "He tells Suleiman what to do. And there's nothing new or different in his appointment."

The rallies didn't feature the burning of Israeli flags, and protesters didn't mention Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas. All the same, many Egyptians see Suleiman as closely involved in maintaining the relationship between the Egyptian and Israeli governments.

"Mubarak and Suleiman - they're both Israel's clients," said one protester. Demonstrators have occasionally shouted for Mubarak to "go to Israel," a variant on the more usual calls to "go to Saudi Arabia," as did Tunisia's ousted president, Zine El Abidine Ben Ali.

The foreign country that sustained the most criticism was the United States, for its support of Mubarak and the mixed messages of the Obama administration.

On a large sign near Tahrir Square that was put up to promote an American company's development project, a scrawled message in large letters called on the United States to keep playing games with dictators while Egyptians achieve democracy through will alone.

In conversation, several protesters linked American support of the regime to Israel, or were critical of Israel for other reasons.---"

Det Muslimska brödraskapet kommer att vinna en promenadseger om egyptierna går till fria val i morgon...
... men om den demokratiska processen rullar på, nya partier och tidningar skapas, ja då kommer våra väljarsiffror att sjunka till 20–25 procent.

"---The worst dictatorships could prosper, thousands could be tortured and killed – but as long as Israel is served by the course of events, all’s right with the world. That’s what people like McCotter, Elsner, and Hoenlein fervently believe. And the government of Israel agrees with them. In a story headlined “Israel Has Faith Mubarak Will Prevail,” top Israeli officials are cited:

“With a deep investment in the status quo, Israel is watching what a senior official calls ‘an earthquake in the Middle East’ with growing concern. The official says the Jewish state has faith in the security apparatus of its most formidable Arab neighbor, Egypt, to suppress the street demonstrations that threaten the dictatorial rule of President Hosni Mubarak. The harder question is what comes next.

“‘We believe that Egypt is going to overcome the current wave of demonstrations, but we have to look to the future,’ says the minister in the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Israel enjoys diplomatic relations and security cooperation with both Egypt and Jordan, the only neighboring states that have signed treaties with the Jewish state. But while it may be more efficient to deal with a strongman in Cairo – Mubarak has ruled for 30 years – and a king in Amman, democracies make better neighbors, ‘because democracies do not initiate wars,’ he says. ‘Having said that, I’m not sure the time is right for the Arab region to go through the democratic process.’”

Has such unmitigated arrogance ever been seen or recorded?

In a normal world, such chutzpah would be widely condemned, and repudiated: instead, in our Bizarro World, it is kowtowed to and appeased.---"