2020-04-29, 07:11
  #266245
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SARS-CoV-2 rymde troligen från biolabbet i Wuhan.
A Wuhan laboratory is the “most likely” source of the COVID-19 outbreak now ravaging the globe, according to a U.S. government analysis that catalogs the evidence and concludes that other explanations for the origin of the coronavirus are less credible.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/28/wuhan-laboratory-most-likely-coronavirus-source-us/
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2020-04-29, 07:11
  #266246
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Merwinnas avatar
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Ursprungligen postat av von Hindenburg
Det finns en grundläggande sammanställning över de som intensivvårdats men den visar inte allt.



https://portal.icuregswe.org/siri/report/corona.riskgrupp


Minsann, då fanns det i alla fall! Och de har plockat in "extrem fetma" också. Tack! Ja, det som inte KAN finnas i statistiken, är förstås de sjukdomar och tillstånd som patienten inte själv kände till (och som inte syns utåt, som fetma gör). I Sverige obducerar vi inte de avlidna coronapatienterna, och det är synd, för den informationen behöver vi ju för att kunna fatta korrekta beslut.
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2020-04-29, 07:13
  #266247
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Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av magpest
SARS-CoV-2 rymde troligen från biolabbet i Wuhan.
A Wuhan laboratory is the “most likely” source of the COVID-19 outbreak now ravaging the globe, according to a U.S. government analysis that catalogs the evidence and concludes that other explanations for the origin of the coronavirus are less credible.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/28/wuhan-laboratory-most-likely-coronavirus-source-us/
Nej, det är det inte:
On the origins of the virus that causes COVID-19


Unfounded speculation on the origins of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19 has prompted the following statement from Professor Holmes, who was involved in mapping the genome of the virus.

"There is no evidence that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19 in humans, originated in a laboratory in Wuhan, China.

"Coronaviruses like SARS-CoV-2 are commonly found in wildlife species and frequently jump to new hosts. This is also the most likely explanation for the origin of SARS-CoV-2.

"The closest known relative of SARS-CoV-2 is a bat virus named RaTG13, which was kept at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. There is some unfounded speculation that this virus was the origin of SARS-CoV-2. However:
(i) RaTG13 was sampled from a different province of China (Yunnan) to where COVID-19 first appeared; and

(ii) the level of genome sequence divergence between SARS-CoV-2 and RaTG13 is equivalent to an average of 50 years (and at least 20 years) of evolutionary change.
"Hence, SARS-CoV-2 was not derived from RaTG13.

"In addition, we know that viruses related to SARS-CoV-2 are also found in pangolins. This suggests that other wildlife species are likely to carry relatives of SARS-CoV-2.

"In summary, the abundance, diversity and evolution of coronaviruses in wildlife strongly suggests that this virus is of natural origin. However, a greater sampling of animal species in nature, including bats from Hubei province, is needed to resolve the exact origins of SARS-CoV-2."



Professor Edward Holmes is an Australian Research Council Laureate Fellow, a Fellow of the Australian Academy of Science and a Fellow of the Royal Society in London.

He has published six academic papers this year on the genome and origin of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19 in humans.

At the University of Sydney he is a member of the Charles Perkins Centre and the Marie Bashir Institute for Infectious Diseases and Biosecurity. He holds a joint position with the School of Life and Environmental Sciences and the Sydney Medical School.
https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2020/04/16/COVID-19-statement-professor-edward-holmes-sars-cov-2-virus.html#
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2020-04-29, 07:15
  #266248
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Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av Niket
Hur kan 80% av svenskarna tycka att Sveriges strategi mot epidemin är bra/ganska bra? Vi offrar kanske 10 000 människoliv på detta experiment.
Drygt 18 000 om man räknar som Finland gör.
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2020-04-29, 07:16
  #266249
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urgts avatar
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Ursprungligen postat av LucNN
Ahahahhaah! Sverige! Så löjligt land. Man måste alltid väga fakta eller värderingar utifrån Vad som ser bra ut. What the fuck asså. Att ni klarar av er själva.

Viktigare att ingen ser dum ut än att rädda lite liv.
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2020-04-29, 07:17
  #266250
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santos_devilles avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av arbetet
Eller så kan Stockholmarna åka ner till Skåne och hosta lite.

Till dem som tror på flockimmunitet. Det finns ett Sverige utanför tullarna med.

Nej tack, dom kan stanna i Stockholm
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2020-04-29, 07:20
  #266251
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Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av LucNN
Ahahahhaah! Sverige! Så löjligt land. Man måste alltid väga fakta eller värderingar utifrån Vad som ser bra ut. What the fuck asså. Att ni klarar av er själva.
Det ligger nog mycket i det du säger.
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2020-04-29, 07:21
  #266252
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magpests avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av arbetet
Nej, det är det inte:
On the origins of the virus that causes COVID-19


Unfounded speculation on the origins of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19 has prompted the following statement from Professor Holmes, who was involved in mapping the genome of the virus.

"There is no evidence that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19 in humans, originated in a laboratory in Wuhan, China.

"Coronaviruses like SARS-CoV-2 are commonly found in wildlife species and frequently jump to new hosts. This is also the most likely explanation for the origin of SARS-CoV-2.

"The closest known relative of SARS-CoV-2 is a bat virus named RaTG13, which was kept at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. There is some unfounded speculation that this virus was the origin of SARS-CoV-2. However:
(i) RaTG13 was sampled from a different province of China (Yunnan) to where COVID-19 first appeared; and

(ii) the level of genome sequence divergence between SARS-CoV-2 and RaTG13 is equivalent to an average of 50 years (and at least 20 years) of evolutionary change.
"Hence, SARS-CoV-2 was not derived from RaTG13.

"In addition, we know that viruses related to SARS-CoV-2 are also found in pangolins. This suggests that other wildlife species are likely to carry relatives of SARS-CoV-2.

"In summary, the abundance, diversity and evolution of coronaviruses in wildlife strongly suggests that this virus is of natural origin. However, a greater sampling of animal species in nature, including bats from Hubei province, is needed to resolve the exact origins of SARS-CoV-2."



Professor Edward Holmes is an Australian Research Council Laureate Fellow, a Fellow of the Australian Academy of Science and a Fellow of the Royal Society in London.

He has published six academic papers this year on the genome and origin of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19 in humans.

At the University of Sydney he is a member of the Charles Perkins Centre and the Marie Bashir Institute for Infectious Diseases and Biosecurity. He holds a joint position with the School of Life and Environmental Sciences and the Sydney Medical School.
https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2020/04/16/COVID-19-statement-professor-edward-holmes-sars-cov-2-virus.html#

Ingen har pratat om att det är skapat ur RaTG13 utan att SARS-CoV-2 (naturligt förekommande) rymde från biolabbet i Wuhan. Det är inte första gången något sådant händer.
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2020-04-29, 07:21
  #266253
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sherms avatar
Kommunistviruset som slank ur labbet.

The Controversial Experiments and Wuhan Lab Suspected of Starting the Coronavirus Pandemic
Citat:
Just one day after the U.S. surpassed China to become the country with the highest number of Covid-19 cases, the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency updated its assessment of the origin of the novel coronavirus to reflect that it may have been accidentally released from an infectious diseases lab, Newsweek has learned.
https://www.newsweek.com/controversial-wuhan-lab-experiments-that-may-have-started-coronavirus-pandemic-1500503?amp=1&utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social& utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true
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2020-04-29, 07:24
  #266254
Medlem
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av arbetet
Eller så kan Stockholmarna åka ner till Skåne och hosta lite.

Till dem som tror på flockimmunitet. Det finns ett Sverige utanför tullarna med.
Det där stället som alla ”Stockholmare” flyttat ifrån menar du? Var lugn, har inte en tanke på att åka tillbaka, bara gamlingar och enstaka asociala gossar kvar där.
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2020-04-29, 07:27
  #266255
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FrankIsBacks avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av arbetet
Eller så kan Stockholmarna åka ner till Skåne och hosta lite.

Till dem som tror på flockimmunitet. Det finns ett Sverige utanför tullarna med.

Du ska inte säga nåt som förordar mördarstrategierna i våra grannländer!

Det är som att säga att Ted Bundy och Jack the Ripper är ok eftersom Anders Brevik dödade några fler.
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2020-04-29, 07:27
  #266256
Medlem
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av arbetet
Eller så kan Stockholmarna åka ner till Skåne och hosta lite.

Till dem som tror på flockimmunitet. Det finns ett Sverige utanför tullarna med.

Vad tycker folk om flock immunitet utanför tullarna? Media är ju så enormt koncentrerat till sthlm att man som utlandssvensk får bilden av att hela landet tycker som Aftonbladet.
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