Inga problem om de sedan undviker riskgrupperna och riskgrupperna undviker dem.
Har du läst det här någonstans eller har du hittat på det själv? Du vet att det Tegnell säger utgår från en modell, en teori? Vet du något om immunitetsproblematik eventuelt risken för att viruset muterar?
Inkluderar det även i spoiler nedan, men det är nog lättare läsa via länk på grund av formatering.
.This is a partial list of historic and current BCG practice around the globe. A complete atlas of past and present practice has been generated.[37]
Americas Edit
Brazil: Brazil introduced universal BCG immunization in 1967–1968, and the practice continues until now. According to Brazilian law, BCG is given again to professionals of the health sector and to people close to patients with tuberculosis or leprosy.
Canada: Indigenous Canadian communities currently receive the BCG vaccine,[38] and in the province of Quebec the vaccine was offered to children until the mid-70s.[39]
Most countries in Central and South America have universal BCG immunizations.[40]
United States: The US has never used mass immunization of BCG, relying instead on the detection and treatment of latent tuberculosis.
Europe Edit
Albania: The BCG vaccine was mandatory until 1990.
Austria: The BCG vaccine neither mandatory nor recommended. National mass vaccination BCG policy implemented in 1952. Mass vaccination discontinued in 1990.[41]
Belgium: The BCG vaccine neither mandatory nor recommended.The vaccine is only considered for certain subjects at risk (people working in the healthcare sector who may come into contact with patients and children under five years of age traveling to countries with a high prevalence of tuberculosis.[42]
Bulgaria: The BCG vaccine is mandatory for children since 1951.[43]
Croatia: The BCG vaccine is mandatory.
Czech Republic: The BCG vaccine is recommended for specific people only. Mass vaccination was performed in the past. BCG vaccine was mandatory for every newborn from 1953 – till 2010. Since then only for risk groups [44]
Denmark: The BCG vaccine neither mandatory nor recommended. Vaccination started in 1946 and it was recommended until the early 1980s, and vaccine coverage for children born between 1965 and 1975 was between 60 and 90 percent.[45]
Finland: The BCG was routinely given for all newborn until 2006. After 2006 the BCG was offered only for selected high risk group children under the age of 7. [46]
France: The BCG was mandatory for school children between 1950 and 2007,[47][48] and for healthcare professionals between 1947 and 2010. Vaccination is still available for French healthcare professionals and social workers but is now decided on a case-by-case basis.[49]
Germany: The BCG vaccine neither mandatory nor recommended. Mass vaccination was performed from 1961 until 1998. [50] East Germany mass vaccination started in 1951.
Greece: Mandatory as of 2014.[51]
Hungary: The BCG vaccination is mandatory for most newborns since 1954.[52]
Iceland: Between 1950 and 1970 only about 7,000 people have been vaccinated. So the total number of BCG vaccinations up to the end of 1970 has not exceeded 14,000 in the country.[53]
Ireland: The BCG was mandatory for all children until 2015 when it was discontinued as a result of global supply issues.[54]
Italy: The BCG vaccine neither mandatory nor recommended. Mass vaccination has never been performed in Italy. [37]
Netherlands: The BCG vaccine neither mandatory nor recommended. Never had BCG vaccination policy for the country.[55]
Norway: In Norway the BCG vaccine was mandatory from 1947 to 1995. It is still available and recommended for high-risk groups.[56]
Poland: The BCG vaccine is mandatory.
Portugal: The Portuguese National Vaccination Programme (PNV) exists since 1965. The PNV vaccines, which includes the BCG, are administered in hospitals to newborns. [57]
Romania: The BCG vaccine is obligatory to newborns with a birth weight greater than 2500 grams, between the ages of 2–7 days and 2 months. In the eighth grade (at the age of 13–14 years) a new dose of BCG vaccine is administered, only if the tuberculin IDR test result is negative (below 9 mm). [58]
Serbia: The BCG vaccine is mandatory, vaccinations occurs at birth and is applied throughout the entire country.[59] [60]
Slovakia: The BCG vaccine neither mandatory nor recommended. The BCG was mandatory for all children until 2012.[1]
Spain: The BCG vaccine neither mandatory nor recommended. Past national BCG vaccination policy for all from 1965 to 1981.[37] Catalonia suspended the vaccination in 1974. In Basque Country it persisted until 2013.[61]
Sweden: The BCG vaccine was routinely administered to children from 1940[41] until 1975.[62] After 1975 the BCG vaccination policy in Sweden changed from routine vaccination of all newborn infants to selective vaccination of groups at higher risk.
United Kingdom: The UK introduced universal BCG immunization in 1953. From then until July 2005, UK policy was to immunize all school children aged between 10 and 14 years of age, and all neonates born into high-risk groups. The injection was given only once during an individual's lifetime (as there is no evidence of additional protection from more than one vaccination). BCG was also given to protect people who had been exposed to tuberculosis. The peak of tuberculosis incidence is in adolescence and early adulthood, and an MRC trial showed efficacy lasted a maximum of 15 years.[63] Routine immunization with BCG for all school children was scrapped in July 2005 because of falling cost-effectiveness: whereas in 1953, 94 children would have to be immunized to prevent one case of TB, by 1988, the annual incidence of TB in the UK had fallen so much, 12,000 children would have to be immunized to prevent a single case of TB.[64] The vaccine is still given to at risk healthcare professionals.[65]
Former Soviet Union. BCG was given regularly throughout life.[citation needed]
Asia Edit
South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan and Malaysia. In these countries, BCG was given at birth and again at age 12. In Malaysia and Singapore from 2001, this policy was changed to once only at birth. South Korea stopped re-vaccination in 2008.
Hong Kong: BCG is given to all newborns.[66]
Japan: In Japan, BCG was introduced in 1951, given typically at age 6. From 2005 it is administered between five and eight months after birth, and no later than a child's first birthday. BCG was administered no later than the fourth birthday until 2005, and no later than six months from birth from 2005 to 2012; the schedule was changed in 2012 due to reports of osteitis side effects from vaccinations at 3–4 months. Some municipalities recommend an earlier immunization schedule.[67]
Thailand: In Thailand, the BCG vaccine is given routinely at birth.[68]
India and Pakistan: India and Pakistan introduced BCG mass immunization in 1948, the first countries outside Europe to do so.[69] In 2015, millions of infants were denied BCG vaccine in Pakistan for the first time due to shortage globally.[70]
Mongolia: All newborns are vaccinated with BCG. Previously, the vaccine was also given at ages 8 and 15, although this is no longer common practice.[citation needed]
Philippines: BCG vaccine started in the Philippines in 1979 with the Expanded Program on Immunization.
Sri Lanka: In Sri Lanka, The National Policy of Sri Lanka is to give BCG vaccination to all newborn babies immediately after birth. BCG vaccination is carried out under the Expanded Programme of Immunisation (EPI).[71]
Middle East Edit
Israel: BCG was given to all newborns between 1955 and 1982.
Iran: Iran's vaccination policy implemented in 1984. Vaccination with the Bacillus Calmette-Guerin (BCG) is among the most important TB control strategies in Iran [2]. According to Iranian neonatal vaccination policy, BCG has been given as a single dose at children aged <6 years, shortly after birth or at first contact with the health services.
Africa Edit
South Africa: In South Africa, the BCG Vaccine is given routinely at birth, to all newborns, except those with clinically symptomatic AIDS. The vaccination site in the right shoulder.[72]
Morocco: In Morocco, the BCG was introduced in 1949. The current policy is BCG Vaccination at birth, to all newborns[73]
South Pacific Edit
Australia: BCG vaccination was used between 1950s and mid 1980. BCG is not part of routine vaccination since mid 1980.[74]
New Zealand: BCG Immunisation was first introduced for 13 yr olds in 1948. Vaccination was phased out 1963–1990.[37]
Man ska aldrig säga aldrig, men det känns inte självklart. Sverige är i så fall det land med flest vaccinerade i riskgruppen, eftersom vi började redan 1940, långt före andra.
Varav 81 var från Stockholm. Sverige i övrigt verkar klara sig OK jämfört med andra länder men just Stockholm får oss att stå ut. Stockholm har misslyckats och drar hela landet i skiten.
Kan avslöja, om man nu inte skulle känna till detta, så finns ett stort mörkertal från övriga län runt om i Sverige vad gäller döda. I vissa län dör massvis med äldre på vårdboenden, utan att man fastställt dödsorsak...
Eftersläpningar som i bästa fall kommer synas i statistik på sikt.
Hur kan du säga detta när denna pandemi bara är inne på några månader. Vänta och se vad som händer till slutet av året.
Intressant att så många här i denna tråd använder historiska fakta medans vi är mitt uppe i en pandemi som ingen vet hur den kommer att sluta.
Det kan man naturligtvis aldrig vara 100% säker på på men det kan man aldrig vara med nånting. Man får extrapolera S-kurvan och studera de länder där det har härjat längst med och göra överslagsberäkningar. Troligen landar det under 500000döda.
Det är alltid bra att se det ur ett större perspektiv och göra jämförelser med andra epidemier
Aids: 35miljoner döda (ca 2miljoner döda per år.) Mest unga dör
Malaria: 750000 döda per år
Fram till 1980 dog 2,5miljoner varje år i mässlingen, sen minskade det till ca 100000per år tack vari vaccinationsprogram. Mest barn under 5 år dör. Skrämmande dock att många vägra vaccinera sin barn i Sverige.
Det finns en uppsjö farsoter som är långt värre än Covid-19.
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Senast redigerad av raskens 2020-04-18 kl. 23:58.
Under första kvartalet i år dog 165.367 italienare, mot 185.967 ifjol, 184.991 för två år sedan och 192.045 för tre år sedan.
Ah yes, the mass graves dug - the ice-rinks used as morgues, the refrigerated rooms in the slaughterhouse areas — these are because less people died then usual.
Jag tycker inte att det ser ut som att R är under 1.
Man såg en snabb nedgång initialt, men om R<1 så ska det fortsätta sjunka. Annars har man bara gjort spridningen långsammare. Tyskarna kommer att lessna på karantän när de ser att det inte går att stoppa.
Ok.
The Robert Koch Institute for disease control released data showing that Germany’s person-to-person infection rate had dropped to 0.7, meaning that each person carrying the virus was now infecting less than one other person on average.
Men snälla, förstår ni inte att man inte kan ducka detta virus? Om man inte tar smällen nu så får man ta den när man öppnar upp. Vi kan inte ha lockdown tills ett vaccin kommer.
Men din idiot, är alternativet att köra en strategi där folk får agera kanonmat? Du kan inte ens vänta några månader tills man vet mer om viruset åtminstone din dumma jävla sociopat.
Går dock inte att utesluta en ökad tröghet i smittspridningen generellt; BCG verkar ha en viss allmän effekt på virus, mekanism okänd dock. Men tror det är mer komplext än så, både organisation, kompetens, mm av äldrevård och sjukvård skiljer sig mycket mellan länderna.
Det går givetvis inte att utesluta, nej. Men vi har ju också mindre åtgärder, så det är naturligt att det går snabbare.
Johan Giesecke och dom osynliga kurvorna med hela svenska folket.
Är jag den enda som misstänker att före detta statsepidemiologen Johan Giesecke är en bedragare? Det är bara det att ingenstans hittar jag de nedåtgående kurvorna han pratar om i public service. Han syftar på någon kurva som ska återspegla en minskad ökning av någonting men osäkert vad. Jag letar och letar men hittar enbart kurvor som visar fler smittade och döda i sverige.
Citat:
Före detta statsepidemiologen Johan Giesecke säger till SVT att han är övertygad om att den nedåtgående trenden kommer att fortsätta.
– Även om vi skulle se något enskilt språng upp eller ned så är jag säker på att kurvan är stadigt på väg nedåt. SVT 18/4/20
Vilken trend och vilka kurvor menar du Giesecke? Ni vet den här kurvan som visar sig då strutsen stoppar huvudet i sanden, den kurvan känner ni alla till. hahaha
