Är judar ett folk?

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Ursprungligen postat av PappaBoeg

Missförstå mig inte, jag har inget emot judar, sionister har jag däremot jävligt svårt för. Gamla argument, men deras beteende mot palestinierna visar ju rätt tydligt att dom lärde sig ett och annat knep av nazisterna i koncentrationslägren.

Nej, oooooooooooooooh nej, du är inte judehatare. Det är bara det att din mentalsjuka parallell mellan nazzarnas förintelseläger och situationen i Israel är ett typiskt antisemitiskt, förståndshandikappat argument helt utan saklig grund. Men den lilla detaljen gör väl inte dig till judehatare, oooooooooooooooh nej.

Hur många förintelseläger finns det i Israel eller på Västbanken?

Vad äter en nazze förutom kameldynga? Arabdiarré?

Experten/Intellectual tillbaka i ny form? Kanske dags för en IP-ban?

Intressant att man inte får säga "pucko", men man får kalla nån för "judehatare" hursomshelst.

Finns väl inget i Pappaboegs inlägg som tyder på att han är judehatare? Du får nog underbygga dina argument annars är det ingen som kommer att ta dig på allvar.

Jag_vet_redan gör ju felet att utgå ifrån att alla judar är sionister för att han är det. Om det skulle vara så, så hatar jag ju iochförsig alla judar, eftersom jag hatar sionister, men jag är inte den som drar alla över en kam. :P

Det finns inget annat än semantiska skillnader mellan att vara antisemit och att vara antisionist.

Läs detta, så klarnar det nog:

"Say What? Anti-Semites? Who, us anti-Zionists? US? We have nothing against Jews as such. We just hate Zionism and Zionists. We think Israel does not have a right to exist. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such. Heavens to Mergatroyd. Marx Forbid. We are humanists. Progressives. Peace lovers.

Anti-Semitism is the hatred of Jews. Anti-Zionism is opposition to Zionism and Israeli policies. The two have nothing to do with one another. Venus and Mars. Night and Day. Trust us.

Sure, we think the only country on the earth that must be annihilated is Israel. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

Sure, we think that the only children on earth whose being blown up is ok if it serves a good cause are Jewish children. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

Sure we think that if Palestinians have legitimate grievances this entitles them to mass murder Jews. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

Naturally, we think that the only people on earth who should never be allowed to exercise the right of self-defense are the Jews. Jews should only resolve the aggression against them through capitulation, never through self-defense. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We only denounce racist apartheid in the one country in the Middle East that is NOT a racist apartheid country. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We refuse to acknowledge the Jews as a people, and think they are only a religion. We do not have an answer to how people who do NOT practice the Jewish religion can still be regarded as Jews. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We think that all peoples have the right to self-determination, except Jews, and including even the make-pretend Palestinian "people". But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We hate it when people blame the victims, except of course when people blame the Jews for the jihads and terrorist campaigns against them. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We think the only country in the Middle East that is a fascist anti-democratic one is the one that has free elections. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We demand that the only country in the Middle East with free speech, free press, or free courts be destroyed. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We oppose military aggression, except when it is directed at Israel. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We really understand suicide bombers who murder bus loads of Jewish children and we insist that their demands be met in full. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We think the only conflict on earth that must be solved through dismembering one of the parties to that conflict is the one involving Israel. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We do not think that Jews have any human rights that need to be respected and especially not the right to ride a bus without being murdered. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

There are Jewish leftist anti-Zionists and we consider this proof that anti-Zionists could not possibly be anti-Semitic. Not even the ones who cheer when Jews are mass murdered. These are the only Jews we think need be acknowledged or respected. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We do not think murder proves how righteous and just the cause of the murderer is, except when it comes to murderers of Jews. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We do not think the Jews are entitled to their own state and must submit to being a minority in a Rwanda-style "bi-national state", although no other state on earth, including the 22 Arab countries, should be similarly expected to be deprived of its sovereignty. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We think that Israel's having a Jewish majority and a star on its flag makes it a racist apartheid state. We do not think any other country having an ethnic-religious majority or having crosses or crescents or "Allah Akbar" on its flag is racist or needs dismemberment. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We condemn the "mistreatment" of women in the only country of the Middle East in which they are not mistreated. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We condemn the "mistreatment" of minorities in the only country in the Middle East in which minorities are NOT brutally suppressed and mass murdered. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We demand equal citizen rights, which is why the only country in the Middle East in need of extermination is the only one in which they exist. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We have no trouble with the fact that there is no freedom of religion in any Arab countries. But we are mad at hell at Israel for violating religious freedom, and never mind that we are never quite sure where or when it does so. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

So how can you possibly say we are anti-Semites? We are simply anti-Zionists. We seek peace and justice, that's all. And surely that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such."
Länk: http://www.freeman.org/m_online/oct03/plaut1.htm

Snarare är det bekvämt för er sionister att skrika "anti-semit" åt alla som inte håller med er.

Ja, nu försöker du tillskriva dina meningsmotståndare en massa åsikter. Ett gammalt trick, ett ruttet trick och ganska tråkigt att se. Försök att ha egna åsikter istället för dinna klipp-och-klistra-räder. Det räcker med att IDF klipper och klistrar hejvilt, vi behöver inte en till likadan.