2009-02-23, 21:28
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Idag så mottog jag ett svar från en irländsk man som har nära förbindelser med RIRA (Real irish republicn army) efter att jag fråg om IRA är på uppgång återigen.
Detta fick jag för svar:
Så, vad tror ni enligt skvaller/ryktes vägar som vi så mkt älskar här
Tror ni själva att IRA är på uppgång? för er som inte vet så har ett dussintal bombningar skett mot utsatta militära mål i London under 2007-08 samt flera skottlossningar har ägt rum i Belfast. även flertalet bilbombningar har inträffat och oändligt massa möten angående en omgruppering har hållits i Belfast.
Detta fick jag för svar:
Citat:
Hey man, i think you sent me a message or a comment a while back about the situation here in the North of Ireland.
Anyway, you said you were going to come to Belfast in few years time and that you'd make a book and that it would be a pro-IRA book or something?
If you are going to travel around Belfast you should take a black-taxi tour - The bus tours arent as good because its mostly a guy with little or no political opinion saying the usual "This happened" and not giving his own view, or like he didnt experience anything or what not, The Black taxi's are usually more personal.
And also about the dissident IRA groups, if you are writing a book im sure you could get into contact with some of them for an interview or pictures or something - I saw a few pictures for propaganda that a journalist took a year or two ago.. You could try that
Heres a video or two - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDSCp...eature=related
And here is the new-years statement by the IRA
Óglaigh na hÉireann New Years Statement 2009
The leadership of Óglaigh na hÉireann send new years greetings to our friends, supporters and to our volunteers who have remained steadfast, committed and dedicated to defending the republican position in the face of massive odds.
We also remember at this time all Irish Republican POWs and political prisoners incarcerated in gaols throughout Ireland, Britain and America, the republican community appreciate your sacrifice and will continue to work on your behalf.
We extend solidarity greetings to fellow revolutionaries across the world and we draw inspiration from other struggles against occupation and imperialism worldwide.
In the past 12 months Óglaigh na hÉireann have continued to organise, develop and consolidate. We have carried out a number of attacks against British state interests in Ireland and our volunteers have stood shoulder to shoulder with our communities against the scourge of Drugs. Óglaigh na hÉireann have taken direct action against a number of drug networks across the country and in the coming year, we shall not allow our communities to face this menace alone.
This past year has also saw republicanism under a level of attack from the Chruch, State and Media that has not been witnessed for many years. Those who consider republicanism an irrelevance should take a look at the massive resources the status quo is investing to defeat us. The British are spending unlimited amounts of money on surveillance and intelligence, the Free State are interning republicans at the behest of the British, the media are continuing to fabricate lies on a daily basis and many editors have developed an almost pathological hatred of Anti Stormont Irish Republicans.
Again the Catholic Church has entered the fray on the side of capitalism, conservatism and the status quo - this is to be expected. We would advise the church to clean up their own back yard before commenting on others. They should take the plank out of their own eyes before worrying themselves about the splinters in others. It is perhaps a small mercy that the church is no longer a major player in forming opinions in Irish society.
In the Coming year Óglaigh na hÉireann will continue to resist the British occupation of Ireland by any and all means including the force of arms, however, all republican organisations must remain disciplined and no one should engage in attacks or threats that they cannot immediately defend or explain. For our part Óglaigh na hÉireann will stand behind any actions we take.
Republicanism is facing into a difficult future, the forces ranged against us are many and we are few. We must think and act strategically and in the long term, the British are not going anywhere soon and neither are we. Republicans must develop realistic short and medium term goals, 2009 will not be the year of victory and another phase of the long war is yet to begin in earnest.
Óglaigh na hÉireann is facing a huge uphill struggle but we will face it full on, make no mistake, we are here for the long haul, we will continue to exist until the illegal occupation of our nation has ended.
Victory to the IRA.
--
These guys seem serious, many of them are ex-Provos with bomb-making skills and skills in guerilla warfare, I mean they almost drove a 300lb car-bomb into a British Army base a few weeks ago -->
A spokesman for ONH said: Had we got that bomb into Ballykinler then we would have been looking at large scale destruction and military casualties and that was our intention.
The dissident republican group blamed for a 300lb car bomb abandoned in Co Down earlier this month has claimed it is made up principally of former members of the Provisional IRA.
Police warned that the Castlewellan bomb, which Oglaigh na hEireann (ONH) said was destined for Ballykinler British army base, could have claimed lives and was similar in structure to the Omagh bomb.
In an interview with The Irish News the paramilitary organisation set out its strategy for the first time, claiming:
- To have recruited former Provisional IRA explosive experts
- That paramilitary-style punishments have made them popular in republican areas
- It will not have a political wing
- It will not attack loyalists or commercial targets
- That it had planned to drive the 300lb through the front gate of Ballykinler army base
There was a last-minute problem with the plan and the operation had to be abandoned.
ONH has been mentioned by the Independent Monitoring Commission reports into paramilitary violence.
However, little has been known about their size, structure and capability until now.
As far as numbers go Im not going to say we have hundreds of volunteers because we dont. We have turned away more people than we have recruited, the ONH spokesman said.
Carrying out paramilitary-style shootings had encouraged members of the republican community to provide previously unavailable support and safe houses, the spokesman claimed.
The problem most other groups faced was they didnt have the support framework needed to be effective.
Most groups simply tried doing what the IRA were doing years ago and that wasnt working.
We have sat back and over two years have tried and tested until we have perfected our bomb-making ability.
We have experts in our ranks and that will become apparent in the future.
As far as numbers go Im not going to say we have hundreds of volunteers because we dont, we have turned away more people than we have recruited.
Its not about making up numbers, the people we do have come from a number of organisations but they are experienced and committed and we are not compromised in the way other groups have been.
We have former INLA, and some ex-Real IRA members but most of us come from the ranks of the Provisional IRA.
ONH claims this upsurge is in direct response to demands from the public and has helped secure them popular support in nationalist areas such as west Belfast.
Look, we know that punishment shootings arent going to solve the anti-social problem long term, the spokesman said.
I admit its crude but its effective and regardless of what the security forces, Sinn Fein or the media might say its a policy that has public support.
The problem most other groups faced was they didnt have the support framework needed to be effective.
Because we [are taking action] we are going to people now and asking can we use their house and its opening doors to us, literally.
Im not going to say we have this, that and the other but the fact we are making viable 300lb bombs and have carried out 15 punishment shootings shows we have weapons without us having to shout about it.
Like most groups we have a mix of stuff, some old and some new.
The organisations leaders also distanced themselves from speculation that they were a cover for the Real IRA or the armed wing of any political group.
We have former Reals as members yes but thats the only link we have with them. We also have no connection to the Strabane group who had used the ONH name in the past.
We have no political wing because we feel that strategy failed republicans in the past.
Politics and military cannot operate side by side in that way, the ballot box and the armalite policy was a failure.
We are watching with interest the current sea-change in political opinion and the renewed debate by republicans who feel we have been sold a pup.
Of course any political developments will be taken on board and we will adapt as and when we feel it is appropriate.
-- I for one support these guys, but time will tell i mean as soon as the dead bodies of brits & cops start to get chalked up.. lets just say i'll believe it when i see it.
But they are tackling the huge amount of crime thats going in areas of Belfast now.. I mean they have carried out punishment-shootings (kneecappings) and they placarded / walk of shame'd some criminals down the street from me lol, If you have msn i can also send you two pictures of a newspaper from Derry City about whats going on there and how the INLA & others are tackling drug dealers?
Sorry for it being such a long message, see ya
Anyway, you said you were going to come to Belfast in few years time and that you'd make a book and that it would be a pro-IRA book or something?
If you are going to travel around Belfast you should take a black-taxi tour - The bus tours arent as good because its mostly a guy with little or no political opinion saying the usual "This happened" and not giving his own view, or like he didnt experience anything or what not, The Black taxi's are usually more personal.
And also about the dissident IRA groups, if you are writing a book im sure you could get into contact with some of them for an interview or pictures or something - I saw a few pictures for propaganda that a journalist took a year or two ago.. You could try that
Heres a video or two - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDSCp...eature=related
And here is the new-years statement by the IRA
Óglaigh na hÉireann New Years Statement 2009
The leadership of Óglaigh na hÉireann send new years greetings to our friends, supporters and to our volunteers who have remained steadfast, committed and dedicated to defending the republican position in the face of massive odds.
We also remember at this time all Irish Republican POWs and political prisoners incarcerated in gaols throughout Ireland, Britain and America, the republican community appreciate your sacrifice and will continue to work on your behalf.
We extend solidarity greetings to fellow revolutionaries across the world and we draw inspiration from other struggles against occupation and imperialism worldwide.
In the past 12 months Óglaigh na hÉireann have continued to organise, develop and consolidate. We have carried out a number of attacks against British state interests in Ireland and our volunteers have stood shoulder to shoulder with our communities against the scourge of Drugs. Óglaigh na hÉireann have taken direct action against a number of drug networks across the country and in the coming year, we shall not allow our communities to face this menace alone.
This past year has also saw republicanism under a level of attack from the Chruch, State and Media that has not been witnessed for many years. Those who consider republicanism an irrelevance should take a look at the massive resources the status quo is investing to defeat us. The British are spending unlimited amounts of money on surveillance and intelligence, the Free State are interning republicans at the behest of the British, the media are continuing to fabricate lies on a daily basis and many editors have developed an almost pathological hatred of Anti Stormont Irish Republicans.
Again the Catholic Church has entered the fray on the side of capitalism, conservatism and the status quo - this is to be expected. We would advise the church to clean up their own back yard before commenting on others. They should take the plank out of their own eyes before worrying themselves about the splinters in others. It is perhaps a small mercy that the church is no longer a major player in forming opinions in Irish society.
In the Coming year Óglaigh na hÉireann will continue to resist the British occupation of Ireland by any and all means including the force of arms, however, all republican organisations must remain disciplined and no one should engage in attacks or threats that they cannot immediately defend or explain. For our part Óglaigh na hÉireann will stand behind any actions we take.
Republicanism is facing into a difficult future, the forces ranged against us are many and we are few. We must think and act strategically and in the long term, the British are not going anywhere soon and neither are we. Republicans must develop realistic short and medium term goals, 2009 will not be the year of victory and another phase of the long war is yet to begin in earnest.
Óglaigh na hÉireann is facing a huge uphill struggle but we will face it full on, make no mistake, we are here for the long haul, we will continue to exist until the illegal occupation of our nation has ended.
Victory to the IRA.
--
These guys seem serious, many of them are ex-Provos with bomb-making skills and skills in guerilla warfare, I mean they almost drove a 300lb car-bomb into a British Army base a few weeks ago -->
A spokesman for ONH said: Had we got that bomb into Ballykinler then we would have been looking at large scale destruction and military casualties and that was our intention.
The dissident republican group blamed for a 300lb car bomb abandoned in Co Down earlier this month has claimed it is made up principally of former members of the Provisional IRA.
Police warned that the Castlewellan bomb, which Oglaigh na hEireann (ONH) said was destined for Ballykinler British army base, could have claimed lives and was similar in structure to the Omagh bomb.
In an interview with The Irish News the paramilitary organisation set out its strategy for the first time, claiming:
- To have recruited former Provisional IRA explosive experts
- That paramilitary-style punishments have made them popular in republican areas
- It will not have a political wing
- It will not attack loyalists or commercial targets
- That it had planned to drive the 300lb through the front gate of Ballykinler army base
There was a last-minute problem with the plan and the operation had to be abandoned.
ONH has been mentioned by the Independent Monitoring Commission reports into paramilitary violence.
However, little has been known about their size, structure and capability until now.
As far as numbers go Im not going to say we have hundreds of volunteers because we dont. We have turned away more people than we have recruited, the ONH spokesman said.
Carrying out paramilitary-style shootings had encouraged members of the republican community to provide previously unavailable support and safe houses, the spokesman claimed.
The problem most other groups faced was they didnt have the support framework needed to be effective.
Most groups simply tried doing what the IRA were doing years ago and that wasnt working.
We have sat back and over two years have tried and tested until we have perfected our bomb-making ability.
We have experts in our ranks and that will become apparent in the future.
As far as numbers go Im not going to say we have hundreds of volunteers because we dont, we have turned away more people than we have recruited.
Its not about making up numbers, the people we do have come from a number of organisations but they are experienced and committed and we are not compromised in the way other groups have been.
We have former INLA, and some ex-Real IRA members but most of us come from the ranks of the Provisional IRA.
ONH claims this upsurge is in direct response to demands from the public and has helped secure them popular support in nationalist areas such as west Belfast.
Look, we know that punishment shootings arent going to solve the anti-social problem long term, the spokesman said.
I admit its crude but its effective and regardless of what the security forces, Sinn Fein or the media might say its a policy that has public support.
The problem most other groups faced was they didnt have the support framework needed to be effective.
Because we [are taking action] we are going to people now and asking can we use their house and its opening doors to us, literally.
Im not going to say we have this, that and the other but the fact we are making viable 300lb bombs and have carried out 15 punishment shootings shows we have weapons without us having to shout about it.
Like most groups we have a mix of stuff, some old and some new.
The organisations leaders also distanced themselves from speculation that they were a cover for the Real IRA or the armed wing of any political group.
We have former Reals as members yes but thats the only link we have with them. We also have no connection to the Strabane group who had used the ONH name in the past.
We have no political wing because we feel that strategy failed republicans in the past.
Politics and military cannot operate side by side in that way, the ballot box and the armalite policy was a failure.
We are watching with interest the current sea-change in political opinion and the renewed debate by republicans who feel we have been sold a pup.
Of course any political developments will be taken on board and we will adapt as and when we feel it is appropriate.
-- I for one support these guys, but time will tell i mean as soon as the dead bodies of brits & cops start to get chalked up.. lets just say i'll believe it when i see it.
But they are tackling the huge amount of crime thats going in areas of Belfast now.. I mean they have carried out punishment-shootings (kneecappings) and they placarded / walk of shame'd some criminals down the street from me lol, If you have msn i can also send you two pictures of a newspaper from Derry City about whats going on there and how the INLA & others are tackling drug dealers?
Sorry for it being such a long message, see ya
Så, vad tror ni enligt skvaller/ryktes vägar som vi så mkt älskar här
Tror ni själva att IRA är på uppgång? för er som inte vet så har ett dussintal bombningar skett mot utsatta militära mål i London under 2007-08 samt flera skottlossningar har ägt rum i Belfast. även flertalet bilbombningar har inträffat och oändligt massa möten angående en omgruppering har hållits i Belfast.
