Atlantis i Albanien.

Lyssna noga nu. Jag kommer inte skriva mer efter detta i denna tråden.
Texten säger det själv. Skulle jag vara du skulle jag läsa allt det står och sen 'hoppa på albanen'.

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Sunday, July 09, 2006
Location of Atlantis.

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(Pilars of Herculis in Agriggento,Sicily)

Now as we know Atlantis after the story of Plato was located "outside the Pilars of Herculis" which in nowdays is located in the strait of Gibraltar.So that means that Atlantis location is somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean.I don't know, But not to many people know the fact that till the year 260 B.C the ancient greeks used to locate the Pillars Of Herculis a little bit closer than what we do know in present times.Well just a "tad".Pilars of Herculis were located in Sicily.Thats right.The strait of Messina used to be called Pilars of Herculis in ancient times.Well the famous Pilars of Herculis were located in various places during many centeries.All because the expansion of the greeks in Mediterranian.So many places were called with the same names like the English in North America when thay started building their cities and giving the names of the Old continent metropols.(London,Paris,York etc).This means that the Pilars were and remain inside the Mediterrenian Sea.Could the Strait of Otranto been called in ancient times Pilars of Herculis to.Well it is a very famous strait that joins to different seas Adriatic and Ion.In fact there are not so many strait that joins the seas with each other in Mediterranian.The ancient greeks till 260 B.C used to locate the Pilars in South of Italy.The strait of Otranto is right there at the tip of the heel of the famous "Italian Boot" between Italy and Albania.

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Friday, July 14, 2006
Images of Atlantis(Taulantis) under the water of Durresi Beach

Perfekt cirkel.
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Perfekta cordinationer (Norr,söder)
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Tuesday, July 18, 2006
Atlantis.Location,Location,Location.

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(KOLLA PÅ BILDEN OCH HA DEN KVAR MEDANS NI LÄSER !!)

Plato is telling to us by his dialogues that Atlantis was located " there when the sun disappear".So it means that Atlantis was located at the very point when sun "goes down".Now we have to understand that Plato had as point of reference the "hellenic world" which mean Athens and area around it.In Greece everyone knows that the sun goes down (specially in summer) at northwest.
By using the clock field that coordinate is 10:30.
This coordinate if you check the picture matches perfectly the location of Durres(Epidamnos-Dyrrachium).

(alltså var atlantis enligt PLATO HAN SJÄLV där var solen går ner. Räknat från Aten är det Durrës.)

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Saturday, July 22, 2006
Atlantis in Albania.The lost city under the waters of Durresi's Beach.

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New images of Atlantisi in Durresi Beach.

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(KOLLA PÅ DESSA 2 !!)

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Thursday, November 02, 2006
This shape can be only "human made".

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(KOLLA PÅ DENNA, MKT VIKTIGT)

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Detta är lite mer intressant..,



Atlantis is in Albania(PART1).
Short story of Durres(a.k.a what we all know).

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This is the Beach of Durres in Albania image from the satelite of NASA.It has the shape of a perfect half circle.You can check it by yourself by useing the program of Google Earth.


History of Durres
In 627 - 626 B.C. Greeks from Corfu and Cornith invaded the area and called the town Epidamnos. In the 4th century B.C. Epidamnos had become an independent city - state, producing metalwork, pottery, fabrics, leather and ships and its coins were circulating throughout the ancient world. The Illyrians after establishing their own state, tried to place Durres under their own dependence. In this struggle, victory favoured the state of the Taulantes(Atlantis). The Illyrian King Monunes, minted coins in Durres, with his own name in them and made Durres, the centre of his own state. In 229 B.C. Durres was taken by Rome and under roman rule, the town was called Dyrrachium, which became the starting point of the Via Egnatia, linking roam with the East. The famous Roman orator, Cicero called Durres an admirable city ..., while the poet Catullus called it the tavern of the Adriatic.
After the partition of the Roman Empire, Durres remained part of the Eastern Empire, Byzantium.
During the 10th & 14th centuries, the town was captured by Bulgarians, Normans, Crusaders, Venetians, Angevins and Serbs. In 1501 it was invaded by the Turks. In 1914 - 1920 Durres became the capital of Albania. In 1915 it became the seat of Prince Velhelm Xuvid. In 1916 was temporarily occupied by Serbian forces.
On the 7th of April l939, Durres was occupied by Italians. and then the Germans, during World War Two.

(DET FANNS ALLTSÅ ETT FOLKSLAG DÄR, TAULANTERNA).
(Taulant, Atlant) Atlantis hette alltså Taulant(is) och inte Atlantis.

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Atlantis is in Albania (PART2)
Atlantis story (a.k.a what we all don't know)

This, the city, or the so called lost continent, or the land of Aryans and whatever you want to call it, in todays worldmostly a myth and a legend but perhaps it may be true.Are these the people that died in the great flooding in Noahs time?Anyway. im going to tell it all to you, tell you what people think and what do they say and those perhaps have any evidence .Is there any language in the world that can translate ATLANT?

English have close afirmative verbs and preffixs begginings witht he Albanian language only that english was spoken 6.000 years after Albanian evolved.AT in means FATHER in Albanian FATHER, and so does in German. PADRE in Italian. By pronouncing AD and then AT you will hear the same tone and rythem and mistakenly spell it ED if you don't know.LAND in english means simply land if you pronounce LANT it might sound more with the letter D at the end of the word.In ilirian the word LANTOKDE means LAND in english or ground.In ALbanian today it is TOK which also means TOGether in english.Check all the similarities. Of course english came from Germanic indo european indom like some historians say but Ilirian(Albanian)is way older than Germanic or even Greek.Modern greeks do not understand ancient greeks. But as I said beforethere is no modern Albanian or ancient Albanian, it will never be, the reason is,, I will explain it later.Now, I can simply say AT LANT meaning FATHER LAND (in my theory).Why don't Albanian use LANTOKDE nomore? The reason is that Albanian language it is a part of Ilirians that survived during dark ages, occupations and etc.One of the oldest Ilirian tribe called TAULANT which means DRY LAND in Albanian, sometimes this tribe was called TAULANTIS in other dialects. This tribe had the region in western part of modernALbania and Montenegro, shored with Adriatic Sea.Another tribe called Adrians of Ilirian states boreded Taulants in northern part where todays bosnia is.All ILIRIAN tribes understood eachother but had different accent in spoken word. A look od Albania's language today you will find the same similarities. Each city, each dialect.Adrians for example used to say LAENT for LAND or the short name of LANTOK which was the official name of land and some other tribes counting more than six used only TOK as in today's modern Albanian language.TOK and also DHE . Tok=land. Dhe=soil. LANTOKDESO its possible LANTODE might be EARTH meaning the PLANET of ours o whre we live.Well, the Ilirian GOd ANTOK was God of EARTH and was written ANTOS in ancient literature of Helens and Latins.God of heaven of course Ouranuem. Can it be ATLODES the father of earth and in another words Father can be used as insted of God since father is a male gender and allways known to antiquety to rule upon other creatures and of course that is the root word which can be taken of pripary word in sentence,Anyway this proofs nothing until now, I just explained what Atlant means if Albanians are the descendants of the lost Continent or City.

(LÄS HELA DENNA - BERÄTTAR OM den Albanska stammen Taulant som EXISTERADE, och atlantis som vi inte vet om )
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Atlantis is in Albania(pt.3)
Story of Taulantis or a.k.a Atlantis.


The Taulanti (Albanian Taulantët) were one of the largest Illyrian tribes. A myth recounted by Arian tells that their name is derived from an eponyomus ancestor, Taulas (genetive Taulanti).
They lived on the Adriatic coast of Illyria(modern Albania), between the river Vjosa on the south and the city of Epidamnos (modern Durres) on the north. This tribe played an important role in Illyrian history of the 4th-3rd centuries BC, when they ruled Illyrian kingdom, firstly established by Enchelleae. Approximately on the same land as Taulanti lived the Albanoi and Parthines tribes.
In 335 BC, King Glaukias established the Taulanti dynasty in the Illyrian Kingdom. In 323 BC, Glaukias freed all the land which had been taken from Enchelleae by the Macedonians. Later, Illyrians capture Epidamnos and Apollonia, two major Illyrian cities, founded by the Greeks in the 7th century BC. In 309 BC, Glaukias went to Epirus where Pyrrhus regained the throne. Bardylis Junior (Bardhyli i Ri), Glaukias' successor, had friendly relationship with Epirus, but it didn’t last long because Pyrrhus conquered all the land in the south of Shkumbin river. This policy was followed strictly by Monounios (280 BC), who became head of Epidamnus and made silver coins with his name. He achieved to consolidate the Illyrian Kingdom. The major cities of the Kingdom were Epidamnios, Apollonia, Damastion, Bylis, Albanopolis, Dimallium, Skodra (Shkoder), Lissos (Lezhe), Meteoni, Ulcinium (Ulqin), Rizon.



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Atlantis is in Albania(pt.5)History of Albania.

The earliest settlers of Albania
The question of the origin of the Albanians is still a matter of controversy among the ethnologists. A great many theories have been propounded in solution of the problem relative to the place from which the original settlers of Albania proceeded to their present home. The existence of another Albania in the Caucasus, the mystery in which the derivation of the name "Albania" is enshrouded, and which name, on the other hand, is unknown to her people, and the fact that history and legend afford no record of the arrival of the Albanians in the Balkan Peninsula, have rendered the question of their origin a particularly difficult one.
But, however that may be, it is generally recognized today that the Albanians are the most ancient race in southesatern Europe. All indications point to the fact that they are descendants of the earliest Aryan immigrants who were represented in historical times by the kindred Illyrians, Macedonians and Epirots. According to the opinion of most ethnologists and linguists, the Illyrians formed the core of pre-Hellenic, Tyrrhenopelasgian population, which inhabited the southern portion of the Peninsula and extended its limits to Thrace and Italy. The Illyrians were also Pelasgians, but in a wider sense. Moreover it is believed that of these cognate races, which are described by the ancient Greek writers as "barbarous" and "non-Hellenic," the Illyrians were the progenitors of the Ghegs, or Northern Albanians, and the Epirots the progenitors of the Tosks, or Southern Albanians. This general opinion is borne out the statement of Strabo that the Via Egnatia or ®gitana, which he describes as forming the boundary between the Illyrians and the Epirots, practically corresponds with the course of river Shkumbini, which now seperates the Ghegs from the Tosks. The same geographer states that Epirots were also called Pelasgians. The Pelasgian Zeus, whose memory survives even today in the appellation of God as "Zot" by the modern Albanians, was worshiped at Dodona, where the most famous oracle of ancient times was situated. According to Herodotus the neighborhood of the sanctuary was called Pelasgia.
These findings of the ethnologists are, moreover, strenghthened by the unbroken traditions of the natives, who regard themselves, and with pride as the descendants of the aboriginal settlers of the Balkan Peninsula. They, therefore, they think have the best claims on it. It is also on the strength of these traditions that the Albanian looks upon the other Balkan nationalities as mere intruders who have expropriated him of much that was properly his own. Hence the constsant border warfare which has gone on for centuries between the Albanian and his neighbors.
The Albanian Language
A more concrete evidence of the Illyrian-Pelasgian origin of the Albanians is supplied by the study of the Albanian language. Notwithstanding certain points of resemblance in structure and phonetics, the Albanian language is entirely distinct from the tongues spoken by the neighboring natonalities. This language is particularly interesting as the only surviving representative of the so-called Thraco-Illyrian group of languages, which formed the primitive speech of the inhabitants of the Balkan Peninsula. Its analysis presents, however, great difficulties, as, owing to the absence of early literary monuments, no certainty can be arrived at with regard to its earlier forms and later developments. In the course of time the Albanian language has been impregnated by a large number of foreign words, mainly of ancient Greek or Latin, which are younger than the Albanian Language, but there are certain indications that the primitive Illyrian language exerted a certain degree of influence on the grammatical development of the languages now spoken in the Balkan Peninsula.
There is, however, a very striking feature in this whole matter: that the Albanian language affords the only available means for a rational explanation of the meaning of the names of the ancient Greek gods as well as the rest of the mythological creations, so as exactly to correspond with the characteristics attributed to these deitis by the men of those times. The explanations are so convincing as to confirm the opinion that the ancient Greek mythology had been borrowed, in its entirety, from the Illyrian-Pelasgians. As it was mentioned before, Zeus survives as "Zot" in the Albanian language. The invocation of his name is the common form of oath among the modern Albanians. Athena ( the Latin Minerva), the goddess of wisdom as expressed in speech, would evidently owe its derivation to the Albanian "E Thena," which simply means "speech." Thetis, the goddess of waters and seas, would seem to be but Albanian "Det" which means "sea." It would be interesting to note that the word "Ulysses,"whether in its Latin or Greek form "Odysseus," means "traveler" in the Albanian language, according as the word "udhe," which stands for "route" and "travel," is written with "d" or "l," both forms being in use in Albania. Such examples may be supplied ad libitum. No such facility is, however, afforded by the ancient Greek language, unless the explanation be a forced one and distorted one; but in many instances even such forced and distorted one is not available at all.
In addition, we should not forget the fact that Zeus was a Pelasgian god, par excellence , his original place of worship being Dodona. It is estimated that of the actual stock of the Albanian language, more than one third is of undisputed Ilyrian origin, and the rest are Illyrian-Pelasgian, ancient Greek and Latin, with a small admixture of Slavic, Italian (dating from the Venetian occupation of the seaboard), Turkish and some Celtic words, too.
IllyriansThe origins of the Albanian people, as was mentioned before, are not definitely known, but data drawn from history and from linguistic, archaeological, and anthropological studies have led to the conclusion that Albanians are the direct descendants of the ancient Illyrians and that the latter were natives of the lands they inhabited. Similarly, the Albanian language derives from the language of the Illyrians, the transition from Illyrian to Albanian apparently occurring between the 4th and 6th centuries AD.
Illyrian culture is believed to have evolved from the Stone Age and to have manifested itself in the territory of Albania towardthe beginning of the Bronze Age, about 2000 BC. The Illyrians were not a uniform body of people but a conglomeration of many tribes that inhabited the western part of the Balkans, from what is now Slovenia in the northwest to and including the region of Epirus, which extends about halfway down the mainland of modern Greece. In general, Illyrians in the highlands of Albania were more isolated than those in the lowlands, and their culture evolved more slowly--a distinction that persisted throughout Albania's history.
In its beginning, the kingdom of Illyria comprised the actual territories of Dalmatia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro, with a large part of modern Serbia. Shkodra (Scutari) was its capital, just as it is now, the most important center of Northern Albania.
The earliest known king of Illyria was Hyllus (The Star) who is recorded to have died in the year 1225 B.C. The Kingdom, however, reached its zenith in the fourth century B.C. when Bardhylus (White Star), one of the most prominent of the Illyrian kings, united under scepter the kingdoms of Illyria, Molossia (Epirus*) and a good part of Macedonia. But its decay began under the same ruler as a result of the attacks made on it by Philip of Macedon, father of Alexander the Great.
In the year 232 B.C. the Illyrian throne was occupied by Teuta, the celebrated Queen whom historians have called Catherine the Great of Illyria. The depredations of her thriving navy on the rising commercial development of the Republic forced the Roman Senate to declare war against the Queen. A huge army and navy under the command of of Santumalus and Alvinus attacked Central Albania, and, after two years of protracted warfare, Teuta was induced for peace (227 B.C.)
The last king of Illyria was Gentius, of pathetic memory. In 165 B.C. he was defeated by the Romans and brought to Rome as a captive.
Henceforth, Illyria consisting of the Enkalayes, the Taulantes, the Epirotes, and the Ardianes, became a Roman dependency. She was carved out into three independent republics the capitals of which were respectively Scodar (Shkoder), Epidamnus (Durres) and Dulcigno (todays' Ulqin in Montenegro).
Authors of antiquity relate that the Illyrians were a sociable and hospitable people, renowned for their daring and bravery at war. Illyrian women were fairly equal in status to the men, even to the point of becoming heads of tribal federations. In matters of religion, Illyrians were pagans who believed in an afterlife and buried their dead along with arms and various articles intended for personal use. The land of Illyria was rich in minerals--iron, copper, gold, silver--and Illyrians became skillful in the mining and processing of metals. They were highly skilled boat builders and sailors as well; indeed, their light, swift galleys known as liburnae were of such superior design that the Romans incorporated them into their own fleet as a type of warship called the Liburnian.
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Då vet vi följande.
Det fanns en stam i Albanien vid namn Taulant. Varifrån Atlantis fick sitt namn. Eftersom världen inte vet något om Atlantis är det mycket mycket möjligt att den hette Taulantis.

Plato hansjälv säger att den ligger i durres indirekt. ALLA hans mått på Atlantis passar in i 'det' som finns under Durrës strand.

Det finns många länder som säger vi har atlantis, men de kan inte backa upp det. Dra inte in dem.

Hoppar inte på albanen, men varför gör du detta mot dina landsmän? Klassisk kompensatorisk nationell historiemytologi som bekräftar alla fördomar som finns mot albansk världsuppfattning. Hade jag varit alban hade jag blivit vansinnig.

Men nu är du inte Albansk så tyst med dig.
Som sagt, osar av avundsjuka..

För att idioterna fortsätter snacka tom efter att de får bevis uppstoppade i röven.

Varför skulle jag vara avundsjuk, Rudbeck presenterade ju en svensk Atlantisteori redan på 1600-talet. Sedan lämnade vi det där bakom oss. Så snart situationen i ert land stabiliseras kommer normala albaner göra processen kort med sådant fantasteri.

Jaha, Rudbeck hade en Teori. En falsk sådan antar jag då Plato säger att den fanns i medelhavet. ?

Albanien var väl inte riktigt Albanien på atlantis tid?
Skitlandet Egypten har ju pyramiderna.

Vi är källkritiska. Till skillnad från dig så är vi fortfarande källkritiska när vi ser något som kan tolkas som positivt för Albanien och hur världen uppfattar henne.

Den som har skrivit det här har bara inkluderat bilder. Han saknar helt källhänvisningar för påstående som att Taulantis var samma som Atalnatis, att Arrian ljuger när han talar om var namnet kommer ifrån, att "The Pillar of Hercules" skulle ligga i Sicilien. Sedan författaren har lite svårt med punktuationen hjälper inte heller (är han alban?).

Likadant land, annat namn (illyrerna)


Du kanske ska ta om och läsa allt?
Källorna finns i texten. Den säger mycket tydligt vad den baserar sig på.
Skäm inte ut dig för fan. Leker inför svenskarna.

För de påstående jag frågade om finns inga källhänvisningar. Bara att Arrianos tydligen har fel, vilket man inte bör säga så lätt med tanke på att han som historiker har viss rang och att ingen källa för att motbevisa honom anges. Bara att namnen tydligen liknar varandra.