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2007-03-10, 05:46
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Avstängd
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Det är enbart serbisk media, viss grekisk och ryssk media som tar upp masslakten på 3268 serber mellan 1992-1995 varav hälften var serbiska civila. Fn och väst stödde bosnienmuslimske Naser Oric och hans bosnienmuslimska styrkor som vid serbiska högtider anföll serbiska byar omkring Srebrenica, slaktade serber och våldtog serbiska kvinnor och barn som kom i deras väg.

Ratko Mladic befriade serberna i dom serbiska byarna kring Srebrenica från deras plågoandar som härjat 1992-1995.

http://emperor.vwh.net/sreb/un-intro.pdf
Pages 1 - 21 of the document. Historical background. Serbian suffering
in the region. Repeated acts of hostility toward the Serbian population
in and around Srebrenica, this time in the 1990s. A list of recent
Serbian victims of Muslim crime.

The list of Serbian victims
http://emperor.vwh.net/sreb/un-victims.pdf
Pages 22 - 40 of the document. Bosnian Serbs from in and around
Srebrenica murdered by Bosnian Muslims from April 20, 1992 to April 5, 1993,
organized by date, victim's first name, father's name (in parenthesis),
last name, year of birth, place of birth, county.

Massacres
http://emperor.vwh.net/sreb/un-massacred.pdf
Pages 41 - 51 of the document. General description of the crimes
committed: Types of torture and murder, plunder of Serbian property,
cleansing of the Serbian population.

Muslim perpetrators
http://emperor.vwh.net/sreb/un-perpetrators.pdf
Pages 52 - 80 of the document. Bosnian Muslim perpetrators. Their full
names, types of crime committed. Places and dates of their crimes.

Victims' statements - part 1
http://emperor.vwh.net/sreb/un-statements-1.pdf
Pages 81 - 104 of the document. Some surviving Serbian victims tell, in
their own words, what they went through and how they survived.

Victims' statements - part 2
http://emperor.vwh.net/sreb/un-statements-2.pdf
Pages 105 - 132 of the document. Continuation: surviving Serbian
victims tell what they went through.
Citera
2007-03-10, 17:10
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Medlem
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Ursprungligen postat av Dimitrije
Det är enbart serbisk media, viss grekisk och ryssk media som tar upp masslakten på 3268 serber mellan 1992-1995 varav hälften var serbiska civila. Fn och väst stödde bosnienmuslimske Naser Oric och hans bosnienmuslimska styrkor som vid serbiska högtider anföll serbiska byar omkring Srebrenica, slaktade serber och våldtog serbiska kvinnor och barn som kom i deras väg.

Ratko Mladic befriade serberna i dom serbiska byarna kring Srebrenica från deras plågoandar som härjat 1992-1995.

http://emperor.vwh.net/sreb/un-intro.pdf
Pages 1 - 21 of the document. Historical background. Serbian suffering
in the region. Repeated acts of hostility toward the Serbian population
in and around Srebrenica, this time in the 1990s. A list of recent
Serbian victims of Muslim crime.

The list of Serbian victims
http://emperor.vwh.net/sreb/un-victims.pdf
Pages 22 - 40 of the document. Bosnian Serbs from in and around
Srebrenica murdered by Bosnian Muslims from April 20, 1992 to April 5, 1993,
organized by date, victim's first name, father's name (in parenthesis),
last name, year of birth, place of birth, county.

Massacres
http://emperor.vwh.net/sreb/un-massacred.pdf
Pages 41 - 51 of the document. General description of the crimes
committed: Types of torture and murder, plunder of Serbian property,
cleansing of the Serbian population.

Muslim perpetrators
http://emperor.vwh.net/sreb/un-perpetrators.pdf
Pages 52 - 80 of the document. Bosnian Muslim perpetrators. Their full
names, types of crime committed. Places and dates of their crimes.

Victims' statements - part 1
http://emperor.vwh.net/sreb/un-statements-1.pdf
Pages 81 - 104 of the document. Some surviving Serbian victims tell, in
their own words, what they went through and how they survived.

Victims' statements - part 2
http://emperor.vwh.net/sreb/un-statements-2.pdf
Pages 105 - 132 of the document. Continuation: surviving Serbian
victims tell what they went through.


Du har alla bevis du behöver. Islam är ett hot mot världen och krigen i Jugoslavinen har bevisat att muslimer bara svarar till våld! Ryssarna har också ett helvete i Tjetjenien där muslimer mördar minoritsryssarna!

Ryssland och kristna Serbien är ett föredöme i kampen mot Islam!
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2007-03-11, 09:39
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http://img.timeinc.net/time/europe/p...ges/sreb05.jpg
July 12, 2001: Nevenka Ostojic, the mother of a Bosnian Serb, weeps as she touches the name of her son Milorad, killed by Bosnian Muslims from Srebrenica, during a memorial service in the Serb village of Kravice, some 16 kilometers (10 miles) west of Srebrenica. Two thousand Bosnian Serbs from eastern Bosnia laid a cornerstone for a memorial to over 3,500 of their soldiers and civilians killed during the 1992-95 war.
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2007-03-11, 10:39
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Dimitrijes avatar
Picture 1 of 34. Srebrenica/Zvornik region: The body of a Bosnian Serb boy murdered by Nasir Oric's forces in the Srebrenica pocket in eastern Bosnia.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/001.shtml

Picture 2 of 34. The bodies of Ranko Sekulovic, left, and his wife, Radenka, 30, executed and mutilated by Bosnian Muslim Territorial Defense forces on September 13, 1992 in Foca. Bosnian Muslim troops murdered the entire Sekulovic family.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/002.shtml

Picture 3 of 34. Bottom, the mutilated body of 13 year old Bosnian Serb Darko Koroman. Bosnian Muslim troops executed him and cut off his right ear and stabbed him through the neck. The bodies of executed Bosnian Serb civilians Pero Grcic and Stojka Koroman lie beside his.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/003.shtml

Picture 4 of 34. The body of Bosnian Serb civilian Kostadinka Grcic, executed by Bosnian Muslim forces by stabbing her in the chest.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/004.shtml

Picture 5 of 34. The decapitated head of Bosnian Serb farmer Pero Makic, who was executed by Bosnian Muslim/Croat forces in the northeastern Bosnian city of Brcko on June 22, 1992. His head was placed on a pitch-fork and a cigarette was placed in his mouth. One of the forks of the pitch-fork was stabbed in his eye. This is a photo that was censored and suppressed in the West and the US.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/005.shtml

Picture 6 of 34. The decapitated head and torso of Bosnian Serb Miladin Asceric, who was executed and decapitated by Bosnian Muslim forces north of Srebrenica, in the town of Kamenica.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/006.shtml

Picture 7 of 34. Bosnian Muslim forces murdered 11 Bosnian Serb refugees on August 27, 1992 in Rogatica. Charred bodies of Bosnian Serb man and woman.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/007.shtml

Picture 8 of 34. The charred skeletal remains of a Bosnian Serb refugee who was tied with a cable and burned inside his car by Bosnian Muslim forces in Kukavice on August 27, 1992.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/008.shtml

Picture 9 of 34. The Milici Massacre, south of Srebrenica. Bosnian Muslim troops executed Bosnian Serbs and mutilated their bodies. On left, Ljubomir Jurosevic had his right eye cut out by Bosnian Muslim soldiers and his neck and chest showed signs of knife wounds. On right, the mutilated body of Bosnian Serb Dimitrije Alempic from Rogosije, who was executed by Bosnian Muslim soldiers. His body was mutilated and burned.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/009.shtml

Picture 10 of 34. The corpse of Bosnian Serb civilian Radivoje Lukic, 59. The Bosnian Muslim paramilitaries „The Mosque Doves” or „Dzamijski Golubovi”, murdered him with an axe to the head on October 8, 1992 in Klisa.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/010.shtml

Picture 11 of 34. The bodies of two Bosnian Serbs in eastern Bosnia. On the right, a charred body of Zdravo Eric, who was killed and his body burned. Before burning him, Muslims took out the heart of this Christian as a sign of Islamic piety.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/011.shtml

Picture 12 of 34. The Bosnian Muslim paramilitaries „The Mosque Doves” or „Islamski Golubovi”, murdered two elderly Bosnian Serb women near Zvornik north of Srebrenica.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/012.shtml

Picture 13 of 34. Mujahedeen video showing the torture and beheading of Bosnian Serb POWs in central Bosnia. These mujahedeen troops were part of the Bosnian Muslim Government Army, not paramilitaries like the Black Swans or The Mosque Doves.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/013.shtml

Picture 14 of 34. Bosnian Muslim mujahedeen march through town as part of Bosnian Muslim Army.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/014.shtml

Picture 15 of 34. Bosnian Islamic leaders, muftis and imams and hodzas, call for a jihad in Bosnia against Bosnian Serb Orthodox Christians.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/015.shtml

Picture 16 of 34. Srebrenica military commander Nasir Oric stands with his soldiers from Srebrenica in front of destroyed and burned Bosnian Serb buildings in Kravica, just north of Srebrenica on Serbian Orthodox Christmas, January 7, 1993.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/016.shtml

Picture 17 of 34. The body of Milica Saric, who was murdered by Bosnian Muslim forces in Kalinovik with 30 other Bosnian Serb civilians. On right, the body of 15 year-old Bosnian Serb Slobodan Mastilo, who was murdered by Bosnian Muslim forces in the Foca region.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/017.shtml

Picture 18 of 34. Sarajevo: The body of Bosnian Serb Nenad Beribaka. The Bosnian Muslim forces mutilated his body after killing him by extracting his brain.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/018.shtml

Picture 19 of 34. Sarajevo: The body of a Bosnian Serb. Bosnian Muslim forces mutilated his bodyby busting his skull open.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/019.shtml

Picture 20 of 34. Bosnian Muslim military forces from Srebrenica killed Bosnian Serb Milan Vujicic, mutilated his body, and then roasted his corpse.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/020.shtml

Picture 21 of 34. Top, bodies of elderly Bosnian Serbs executed by the Bosnian Muslim paramilitary group The Mosque Doves, or Djamijski Golubovi near Zvornik in eastern Bosnia. The Mosque Doves executed 25 Bosnian Serb civilians. Left bottom, Bosnian Muslim forces crushed his skull with an axe, exposing his brain. Right bottom, the body of an elderly Bosnian Serb woman who was murdered by Bosnian Muslim forces.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/021.shtml

Picture 22 of 34. The body of a Bosnian Serb from Sarajevo, who was killed, mutilated, and burned. His body was thrown in the Miljacka river by Bosnian Muslim forces.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/022.shtml

Picture 23 of 34. The body of Bosnian Serb Milovan Kovacevic whose body was mutilated and burned by Bosnian Muslim forces in Rogosije.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/023.shtml

Picture 24 of 34. The mutilated body of Velo Majstorovic, who was tortured, killed, circumcized, and burned alive by Bosnian Muslim forces in Milici in eastern Bosnia, southwest of Srebrenica.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/024.shtml

Picture 25 of 34. El Mujahedeen Unit in Bosnia on parade with green banners which read: „Our path is the jihad”.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/025.shtml

Picture 26 of 34. Srebrenica: Top, the bodies of 38 Bosnian Serb POWs, who were tortured, mutilated, and beheaded in Kamenica, north of Srebrenica by Bosnian Muslim troops from Srebrenica. Left bottom, the tree where Bosnian Muslim forces from Srebrenica tortured Bosnian Serb POWs before executing them. Bottom right, the decapitated corpse of a Bosnian Serb POW.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/026.shtml

Picture 27 of 34. First massacre in Bosnia: March 26, 1992, Croat and Bosnian Muslim forces executed, mutilated, and beheaded 20 Bosnian Serb civilians in Sijekovac near Bosanski Brod. An 85 year Bosnian Serb was executed and then burned inside his house. The decapitated and mutilated corpses of Bosnian Serbs murdered in northern Bosnia near Brod.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/027.shtml

Picture 28 of 34. Destruction of Christianity in Bosnia: Bosnian Muslim troops from Srebrenica under Nasir Oric demolished and burned the Serbian Orthodox parish hall and church in Kravica, north of Srebrenica.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/028.shtml

Picture 29 of 34. Bosnian Muslim Destruction of Churches: Bosnian Muslim troops demolished and burned the Serbian Orthodox Church and hall in Trnovo, south of Sarajevo.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/029.shtml

Picture 30 of 34. Saudi mujahedeen with decapitated heads of Bosnian Serb POWs in 1992. Al-Qaeda funded and organized these early terrorist attacks against Bosnian Serbs.
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/030.shtml
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2009-09-15, 14:30
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Ja, det är väldigt lite uppmärksamhet kring det. Förstår inte hur man kan klassa Srebrenicamassakern som ett folkmord då den övervägande orsaken till varför Mladic gick in i Srebrenica var för att bosnier brutit mot Safe Zone avtalet med FN om att demilitarisera området. Resultatet blev omkring 1000 civila dödsoffer efter flera år av instick i serbiska byar. Till slut efter flera år så var man tvungen att anfalla UN Safe Zone, just för att det egentligen inte var det längre.

Så jag har svårt att se avsikten att Mladic ville utrota den muslimska befolkningen i Srebrenica. Eftersom anfallet var en logisk konsekvens av hur bosniska styrkor utnyttjade Safe Zone som ett område där man kunde omgruppera utan att riskera eventuella anfall från serbiska styrkor för att sedan attackera serbiska byar runt om staden. Inte folkmord.

Men när man väl väljer att tro på det så visade det sig att det är uppblåsta siffror som baseras på Röda Korsets uppskattning just då det hände.
Många påstådda döda flydde egentligen och lever än idag! Och sen har vi en skara med offer som dog i samband med andra anfall, inte då Mladic anföll Srebrenica.
Utöver det så bussade man iväg kvinnor och barn till säkra områden in mot Tuzla, centrala Bosnien under bosnisk kontroll. Vilket är rak motsats till att vilja utföra folkmord på ett folk. Konstigt nog klassade ICTY detta som deportation. Det är ju FNs egna fel och indirekt ICTYs att UN Safe Zone inte fungerade. Alltså tog serberna initiativet på egen hand att föra kvinnor och barn till säkerhet.

Förvisso avrättades många män. Men vad ska man förväntas då männen stod för attackerna på serbiska byar konstant under hela kriget.

Citat från Lewiz Mackenzie, fd Kanadensisk General som arbetade i Bosnien under kriget:

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Evidence given at The Hague war crimes tribunal casts serious doubt on the figure of "up to" 8,000 Bosnian Muslims massacred. That figure includes "up to" 5,000 who have been classified as missing. More than 2,000 bodies have been recovered in and around Srebrenica, and they include victims of the three years of intense fighting in the area. The math just doesn't support the scale of 8,000 killed.[1]

It's a distasteful point, but it has to be said that, if you're committing genocide, you don't let the women go since they are key to perpetuating the very group you are trying to eliminate. Many of the men and boys were executed and buried in mass graves.[1]

It didn't take long for the Bosnian Muslims to realize that the UN was in no position to live up to its promise to "protect" Srebrenica. With some help from outsiders, they began to infiltrate thousands of fighters and weapons into the safe haven. As the Bosnian Muslim fighters became better equipped and trained, they started to venture outside Srebrenica, burning Serb villages and killing their occupants before quickly withdrawing to the security provided by the UN's safe haven. These attacks reached a crescendo in 1994 and carried on into early 1995 after the Canadian infantry company that had been there for a year was replaced by a larger Dutch contingent.[1]
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2009-09-15, 14:34
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Medlem
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3200 serber blev alltså dödade, hur kommer det sig att alla muslimer och muslimska befäl hittils blivit frihade i Haag även Naser oric? just det ni framförde förfalskade bevis.


380 000 civila döda muslimer i Bosnien



Kristendom är något som måste bort ifrån Europa.
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2009-09-15, 14:58
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Medlem
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Ursprungligen postat av Lieutenant-Pain
3200 serber blev alltså dödade, hur kommer det sig att alla muslimer och muslimska befäl hittils blivit frihade i Haag även Naser oric? just det ni framförde förfalskade bevis.


380 000 civila döda muslimer i Bosnien



Kristendom är något som måste bort ifrån Europa.

Judarna och USA stöttade muslimerna i Bosnien precis som de stöttade muslimerna i Albanien. Den "västerländska" (läs judiska) median har hela tiden mörkat sanningen om Balkankrigen.
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2009-09-15, 14:58
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Medlem
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Ursprungligen postat av Lieutenant-Pain
3200 serber blev alltså dödade, hur kommer det sig att alla muslimer och muslimska befäl hittils blivit frihade i Haag även Naser oric? just det ni framförde förfalskade bevis.

Fel, han friades inte, han fälldes för krigsbrott

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The verdict
The International Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) convicted Naser Oric for failing to prevent the murder and inhumane treatment of Serb prisoners. Oric, sentenced to two years in prison,[24] was released immediately for time already served. He was acquitted of direct involvement in the murder or cruel treatment of Serbs, and of responsibility for the "wanton destruction" of homes and property. [25]

The judges noted that militarily superior Serb forces encircled the town and that there was an unmanageable influx of refugees there, as well as a critical shortage of food and the breakdown of law and order. The judges also noted that it was in these circumstances that Orić, then aged 25, was elected commander of a poorly trained volunteer force that lacked effective links with government forces in Sarajevo. His authority was scorned by some other Bosnian leaders and his situation became worse as the Serb forces increased the momentum of their siege.[26]

The judges stated in the verdict that Orić had reason to know about murder and cruel treatment of Serbs on two specific occasions in the Police station, but acquitted him of all other crimes. Orić was acquitted of direct involvement in the murder of prisoners in the early years of the 1992-95 Bosnia war. But the court found he had closed his eyes to their mistreatment and failed to punish their killers. The three judges acquitted him of all charges related to the wanton destruction of Serb villages. The judges also took into account the lack of food and supplies and resulting lack of order and law during the Serbian siege on Srebrenica.[26]

As for the destruction in the villages of Kravica, Bjelovac, Fakovići and Sikiric, the judgment states that "the Accused and members of his group of fighters participated in the attack" but that "the evidence is unclear as to the number of houses that were wantonly destroyed by Bosnian Muslims, as opposed to other causes". In the case of the village of Siljkovici, the court states that "there is insufficient evidence to establish that property was destroyed on a large scale."[27]

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380 000 civila döda muslimer i Bosnien

Fel, du lade till en nolla för mycket. Det ska vara max 38000 döda bosniska muslimer. Sammanlagt, med bosniska kroater och serber inräknat dog högst 100 000, troligen ännu färre. CIA har beräknat högst 60 000.


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Kristendom är något som måste bort ifrån Europa.

Ja om man eftersträvar samhällen som Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudiarabien, Jemen, Somalia och Sudan så ska den bort.
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2009-09-15, 15:00
  #9
Medlem
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Ursprungligen postat av Lieutenant-Pain
3200 serber blev alltså dödade, hur kommer det sig att alla muslimer och muslimska befäl hittils blivit frihade i Haag även Naser oric? just det ni framförde förfalskade bevis.


380 000 civila döda muslimer i Bosnien



Kristendom är något som måste bort ifrån Europa.


ehm 380 000 bosniska muslimer var det inte som dog under kriget..

Total
97,214 Bosniaks 64,341 66.2%

Serbs 24,726 25.4%

Croats 7,602 7.8%

other 547 0.5%

Total civilians

39,685 Bosniaks 33,071 83.3%

Serbs 4,075 10.2%

Croats 2,163 5.4%

others 376 0.9%


Total soldiers

57,529 Bosniaks 31,270 54.4%

Serbs 20,649 35.9%

Croats 5,439 9.5%

others 171 0.3%

unconfirmed 4,000
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2009-09-15, 16:12
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Medlem
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Ursprungligen postat av Dimitrije
Ratko Mladic befriade serberna i dom serbiska byarna kring Srebrenica från deras plågoandar som härjat 1992-1995.

Det var dock inte det enda Ratko gjorde i området kring Srebrenica.
En grisig jäkel är vad han är, även om han inte är ensamt skyldig till brott på den fördömda halvön.
Det är inte serberna i helhet heller ensamma om, men man kan inte förneka att de bar sig åt som ena jävla svin under krigen.
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2009-09-15, 16:22
  #11
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2009-09-15, 16:36
  #12
Medlem
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Ursprungligen postat av Montbars
Fel, han friades inte, han fälldes för krigsbrott

Du ljuger. Varför?

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In 2006, he was sentenced to two years' imprisonment by the Trial Chamber of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) in the Netherlands for failing to prevent the deaths of five and the mistreatment of eleven Bosnian Serb detainees during the period from late 1992 to early 1993 on the basis of superior criminal responsibility.[1] He was acquitted on the other charges of wanton destruction and causing damage to civilian infrastructure beyond the realm of military necessity. On July 3, 2008, the Appeals Chamber of the ICTY reversed the Trial Chamber's conviction and acquitted Orić of all charges brought against him.[2][3]

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