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2021-05-18, 15:10
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Kunskap är data/information

Sen är det väl en begreppsdefiniering ifall data information och kunskap är utbytbara ord. Jag är ingen lingvist, men för mig verkar de vara utbytbara ord.

Kunskap, data kan vara absolut sanning, falskt eller subjektivt. Det beror helt enkelt på vilken sorts data det är. Med sant, falskt och subjektivt så skulle man ju kunna tro att jag fångat alla datasorter. En mer utmanande fråga är om det finns fler kunskapssorter. Det finns även:

Påhittat sant. Staden är paris är ett koncept påhittat av människan. Omvänt finns det också påhittat falskt.

Vi har nog även ej definierbar data, samt slumpmässig data.
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2021-05-18, 15:55
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Kunskap är data/information

Sen är det väl en begreppsdefiniering ifall data information och kunskap är utbytbara ord. Jag är ingen lingvist, men för mig verkar de vara utbytbara ord.

Kunskap, data kan vara absolut sanning, falskt eller subjektivt. Det beror helt enkelt på vilken sorts data det är. Med sant, falskt och subjektivt så skulle man ju kunna tro att jag fångat alla datasorter. En mer utmanande fråga är om det finns fler kunskapssorter. Det finns även:

Påhittat sant. Staden är paris är ett koncept påhittat av människan. Omvänt finns det också påhittat falskt.

Vi har nog även ej definierbar data, samt slumpmässig data.

"Data, information, knowledge and wisdom are closely related concepts, but each has its own role in relation to the other, and each term has its own meaning. According to a common view, data are collected and analyzed; data only becomes information suitable for making decisions once it has been analyzed in some fashion.[8] One can say that the extent to which a set of data is informative to someone depends on the extent to which it is unexpected by that person. The amount of information contained in a data stream may be characterized by its Shannon entropy.

Knowledge is the understanding based on extensive experience dealing with information on a subject. For example, the height of Mount Everest is generally considered data. The height can be measured precisely with an altimeter and entered into a database. This data may be included in a book along with other data on Mount Everest to describe the mountain in a manner useful for those who wish to make a decision about the best method to climb it. An understanding based on experience climbing mountains that could advise persons on the way to reach Mount Everest's peak may be seen as "knowledge". The practical climbing of Mount Everest's peak based on this knowledge may be seen as "wisdom". In other words, wisdom refers to the practical application of a person's knowledge in those circumstances where good may result. Thus wisdom complements and completes the series "data", "information" and "knowledge" of increasingly abstract concepts.

Data are often assumed to be the least abstract concept, information the next least, and knowledge the most abstract.[9] In this view, data becomes information by interpretation; e.g., the height of Mount Everest is generally considered "data", a book on Mount Everest geological characteristics may be considered "information", and a climber's guidebook containing practical information on the best way to reach Mount Everest's peak may be considered "knowledge". "Information" bears a diversity of meanings that ranges from everyday usage to technical use. This view, however, has also been argued to reverse the way in which data emerges from information, and information from knowledge.[10] Generally speaking, the concept of information is closely related to notions of constraint, communication, control, data, form, instruction, knowledge, meaning, mental stimulus, pattern, perception, and representation. Beynon-Davies uses the concept of a sign to differentiate between data and information; data are a series of symbols, while information occurs when the symbols are used to refer to something.[11][12]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data
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2021-05-18, 16:25
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"Data, information, knowledge and wisdom are closely related concepts, but each has its own role in relation to the other, and each term has its own meaning. According to a common view, data are collected and analyzed; data only becomes information suitable for making decisions once it has been analyzed in some fashion.[8] One can say that the extent to which a set of data is informative to someone depends on the extent to which it is unexpected by that person. The amount of information contained in a data stream may be characterized by its Shannon entropy.

Knowledge is the understanding based on extensive experience dealing with information on a subject. For example, the height of Mount Everest is generally considered data. The height can be measured precisely with an altimeter and entered into a database. This data may be included in a book along with other data on Mount Everest to describe the mountain in a manner useful for those who wish to make a decision about the best method to climb it. An understanding based on experience climbing mountains that could advise persons on the way to reach Mount Everest's peak may be seen as "knowledge". The practical climbing of Mount Everest's peak based on this knowledge may be seen as "wisdom". In other words, wisdom refers to the practical application of a person's knowledge in those circumstances where good may result. Thus wisdom complements and completes the series "data", "information" and "knowledge" of increasingly abstract concepts.

Data are often assumed to be the least abstract concept, information the next least, and knowledge the most abstract.[9] In this view, data becomes information by interpretation; e.g., the height of Mount Everest is generally considered "data", a book on Mount Everest geological characteristics may be considered "information", and a climber's guidebook containing practical information on the best way to reach Mount Everest's peak may be considered "knowledge". "Information" bears a diversity of meanings that ranges from everyday usage to technical use. This view, however, has also been argued to reverse the way in which data emerges from information, and information from knowledge.[10] Generally speaking, the concept of information is closely related to notions of constraint, communication, control, data, form, instruction, knowledge, meaning, mental stimulus, pattern, perception, and representation. Beynon-Davies uses the concept of a sign to differentiate between data and information; data are a series of symbols, while information occurs when the symbols are used to refer to something.[11][12]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data

Jo absolut, jag tänkte också att data var den mest råa och minst förädlade råvaran, och sen förädlas det till kunskp och i sista steget till visdom. Men enligt mig är detta subjektivt och en lingvistisk fråga mer än en filosofisk, så jag ville inte lägga för mycket krut på på detta, och schablonerade data och kunskap till att vara utbytbara ord för att inte komplicera till det, för att snabbt komma till de mer mustiga filosofiska aspekterna i TS frågeställning
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