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Genesis 21:12 King James Version (KJV)
12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.
12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.
Vad menas?
Jag har fått lära mig av kristendomen att man får Abraham som far när man kommer till tro på Jesus kristus. Inte efter köttet, utan anden. Den som tror är då av Abrahams (spirituella?) säd/avkomma.
Hör inte den versen ihop med den nedan?
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Genesis 17:4-8 King James Version (KJV)
4 As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.
5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.
6 And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee.
7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.
8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.
4 As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.
5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.
6 And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee.
7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.
8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.
Om det löftet inte hör samman med Genesis 21:12, vilka är då dessa som blir kallade efter Isaks säd?
Om man läser Bibeln utan att tolka efter vad man fått lära sig så ser det onekligen ut som att Gud slöt ett förbund med Abraham och hans avkomma efter köttet. Genom Isak ska de bli kallade.
Alla är de inte löftets barn som är av Abrahams avkomma, utan endast de som är av Isak.
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Vart har de tradionella kristna fått idén om att det skulle vara spirituellt när det talas om löftet om Abrahams avkomma/säd i GT?
Romans 9:7-10 King James Version (KJV)
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
9 For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sarah shall have a son.
10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
9 For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sarah shall have a son.
10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
Om det nu endast är genom Isak som alla blir kallade, var kommer vi då in i bilden?
Jag är genuint nyfiken!
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Senast redigerad av POLlS 2020-04-12 kl. 20:37.
Senast redigerad av POLlS 2020-04-12 kl. 20:37.