2010-03-14, 14:01
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Postat av Krappfiskarn:
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Enligt dig, ja.
Det finns inga hållbara argument för att albaner skulle komma från Kaukasus, varken språkvetenskapliga, historiska eller arkeologiska spår finns av detta.
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Frygien låg i centrala Anatolien, om de drivs norrut av assyrier så hamnar de på botten av Svarta havet. Dessutom var assyrier aldrig så långt in i Anatolien att de skulle hota frygier till en sådan förflyttning du tar upp, och du bortser helt från den allians assyrierna hade med frygerna.
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The origin of the Phrygians is as much of a mystery today as it was 2,000 years ago, during Strabo's time (died 24 A.D.). They seem to be related to the Muski, mentioned in the Assyrian records as allies of the Armenians. Tacitus' Annals also make mention of the Muski as allies of Rome who took over the wilds of Armenia. What happened to the Muski after the Parthian war has yet to be discerned by the author. Some of this will be a repetition of the Phrygian1k.html, here positioned within the context of examining their origin and eventual disappearance from history. This document was composed in the context of responding to a reader's (K. Mushka) question on the origin of the Muski.
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http://www.maravot.com/Phrygian1L.html
The Moschi appear to have been a tribe that lived in the area of Colchis, including modern Georgia, and the southeastern corner of the Black Sea. These are the people that were allied with the Armenians, whom the Assyrians battled, but they must have been part of Phrygia since they also vied for the territory of Que, the area of Tarsus, with the Assyrians. Mixed in with these peoples of the Caucus Mountains were, interestingly, the Albanians.
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Du måste nog uppdatera dina kunskaper om Tokharierna.
Vad yrar du om? Tokharierna var asiater och inte européer, och är totalt ovidkommande för diskussionen.
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A recent article (Hemphill and Mallory, 2004) reaches the following conclusions: This study confirms the assertion of Han [1998] that the occupants of Alwighul and Krorän are not derived from proto-European steppe populations, but share closest affinities with Eastern Mediterranean populations. Further, the results demonstrate that such Eastern Mediterraneans may also be found at the urban centers of the Oxus civilization located in the north Bactrian oasis to the west. Affinities are especially close between Krorän, the latest of the Xinjiang samples, and Sapalli, the earliest of the Bactrian samples, while Alwighul and later samples from Bactria exhibit more distant phenetic affinities. This pattern may reflect a possible major shift in interregional contacts in Central Asia in the early centuries of the second millennium BC. However, another theory states that the earliest Bronze Age settlers of the Tarim and Turpan basins originated from the steppelands and highlands immediately north of East Central Asia. These colonists were related to the Afanasievo culture which exploited both open steppelands and upland environments employing a mixed agricultural economy. The Afanasievo culture formed the eastern linguistic periphery of the Indo-European continuum of languages whose centre of expansion lay much farther to the west, north of the Black and Caspian seas. This periphery was ancestral to the historical Tocharian languages. See J. P. Mallory and Victor H. Mair, The Tarim Mummies — 2000 Thames and Hudson Ltd ISBN 0-500-05101-1.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1672757/postsA recent article (Hemphill and Mallory, 2004) reaches the following conclusions: This study confirms the assertion of Han [1998] that the occupants of Alwighul and Krorän are not derived from proto-European steppe populations, but share closest affinities with Eastern Mediterranean populations. Further, the results demonstrate that such Eastern Mediterraneans may also be found at the urban centers of the Oxus civilization located in the north Bactrian oasis to the west. Affinities are especially close between Krorän, the latest of the Xinjiang samples, and Sapalli, the earliest of the Bactrian samples, while Alwighul and later samples from Bactria exhibit more distant phenetic affinities. This pattern may reflect a possible major shift in interregional contacts in Central Asia in the early centuries of the second millennium BC. However, another theory states that the earliest Bronze Age settlers of the Tarim and Turpan basins originated from the steppelands and highlands immediately north of East Central Asia. These colonists were related to the Afanasievo culture which exploited both open steppelands and upland environments employing a mixed agricultural economy. The Afanasievo culture formed the eastern linguistic periphery of the Indo-European continuum of languages whose centre of expansion lay much farther to the west, north of the Black and Caspian seas. This periphery was ancestral to the historical Tocharian languages. See J. P. Mallory and Victor H. Mair, The Tarim Mummies — 2000 Thames and Hudson Ltd ISBN 0-500-05101-1.
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http://www.white-history.com/hwr6a.htm
One of the furthermost eastern migrations of Celtic peoples - Indo-European Nordics - reached the Takla Makan desert (situated between Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tibet) in China around 1500 BCThis great migration was unknown until the 1977 AD discovery of 3500-year-old graves of these people. As a result of the natural dryness of the environment, many of the corpses are almost perfectly preserved, with their reddish-blond hair, long noses, round eyes and finely woven tartan clothing (usually associated with the Celts in Scotland), showing undeniably White racial traits.
