Mohammed förespådd i toran och bibeln

Detta är intressant :
Now if we turn to chapter 29 of Isaiah, concerning revelation from God it
says in verse 12 [SLIDE 27]: “When it is handed to one who cannot read,
with the request, ‘Read this’, he replies, ‘I cannot read’”. Anyone who has
ever read the biography of Prophet Muhammad will remember what he said
when the first revelations of the Qur’an came to him from God. When he
was told to read he replied in these exact words, “I cannot read” because he
was illiterate as the Qur’an states in chapter 7:157 [SLIDE 28]. In fact the
exact Arabic words of that revelation were [SLIDE 29]. Here is the
translation [SLIDE 30]. As you can see in the next slide, the Arabic word
[SLIDE 31] “Iqra” means “to read or recite” and it’s fascinating to know
that the same word was used in the Hebrew text of Isaiah 29. The Arabic
word that angel Gabriel used to address Muhammad was "Iqra". It is
derived from the Arabic root word "qara". However, if we were to go back
to the original Hebrew form of Isaiah 29:12, we would find that the actual
word which is translated into English as "Read this" is the Hebrew word
qara', {kaw-raw'}. So I think it’s amazing that the Hebrew text of Isaiah
not only used a word with the same meaning, but practically the same word
itself!/

http://www.converted2islam.com/files...inthebible.pdf

Gabriel said to Muhammad: "Iqraa," meaning "read" or "recite." He replied, "I cannot read, Gabriel Continued : Recite in the name of your Lord who created - Created man from a clinging substance. Recite, and your Lord is the most Generous - Who taught by the pen - Taught man that which he knew not. No! [But] indeed, man transgresses Because he sees himself self-sufficient. Indeed, to your Lord is the return.

(5) Now I’d like to show you where in the Old Testament the Prophet
Muhammad is mentioned by name. We turn to the 5th chapter of the Shir
haShirim ( השירים שיר ), which is one of the five megilot or Sacred Scrolls
that are part of the Hebrew Bible or for short the "Song of Solomon" (also
called "Song of Songs"). That chapter is giving about an
individual to come, a mystery man.

Here is the name [SLIDE 32] written in
ancient Hebrew as it appears in verse 16: ( ). It is read as :
"Mahammad". There is a plural used together with this Hebrew word, with
the plural it’s pronounced “Mahamaddim”. The ending letters 'im' is a plural
of respect, majesty and grandeur for God’s prophet, just as in the word
Elohim (is used for God). Without this plural of respect the name becomes
Mahamad. However there are people who dispute this fact and claim the
words "altogether lovely" are translated from mahmad ( ). They are
able to make this claim because in the writing of ancient Hebrew there was
no difference between the word mahmad ( ) and Muhammad ( ),

http://www.converted2islam.com/files...inthebible.pdf

“And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate to
be with you always.” (John 14:16).

The Greek used in John’s Gospel to mean “comforter” or “advocate” is
"Paraclete". But in reality this Greek word does not mean “comforter” or
“advocate”, in fact it’s not a Classical word at all. According to the former
Christian Theologian and Catholic Priest, Reverend David Benjamin
Keldani, in his book “Muhammad in the Bible”, he says on page 214,
[SLIDE 40] the word "Paraclete" is actually a corrupted form of the word
"Periklytos". The literal etymological meaning of "Periklytos" is “the most
illustrious, renowned and praiseworthy”. This compound noun is composed
of the prefix “peri” and “kleotis” derived from the verb “to glorify, to
praise”. Now then we should ask, what do the names "Muhammad" and
“Ahmad” mean in Arabic? Again, as we learned before, Muhammad means
“The praised and praiseworthy one” and Ahmad means “Highly Praised and
The one who praises God most”. Here is wikipedia’s definition of Ahmad
[SLIDE 41] and here is another western reference for the Name Muhammad
[SLIDE 42]. Now we see that the Greek word "Periklytos" as well as the
Arabic names Muhammad and Ahmad all share the meaning of "Praised" or
"Celebrated". This is further proof that the "Periklytos", the praise worthy
spirit that Jesus prophesied to come after him was no other than Prophet
Muhammad.
http://www.converted2islam.com/files...inthebible.pdf

Kolla här http://www.missionislam.com/comprel/jesus.htm

[61:6] And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!"

Kanske därför Koranen säger "Those to whom We have given the Book recognize him (Muhammad) as they recognize their sons. (as for) those who have lost their souls, they will not believe.

Det stämmer, välkommen till Islam! Islam är den enda sanna religionen!

Med så mycket som står i biblar, toror, Bhagavad Gitor, Koraner osv som aldrig någonsin stämt överens med verkligheten så känns det lite magstarkt att i efterhand läsa in för mycket när något med lite vilja kan fås att verka vara en uppfylld profetia.
Ungefär som flera här gör med Jesus återkomst. Tecknen i världen tyder på att det är nära. Dessa tecken har kunnat ses i alla tider dock. Samma här.
Judarna väntar på sin Messias fortfarande, kristna på Jesus 2.0 och muslimerna håller envist fast vid att varje bokstav i Koranen är sanning och tolkar om verkligheten när den inte stämmer överens med skriften.
Stämmer Toran i detalj så kan inte Islam existera så att välja ut de detaljer man gillar ger ingen trovärdighet direkt. Allt eller inget.

God makes you in the womb of your mothers in stages, One after anoter, within three veils of darkness" Dr moore confirms this accuracy and mean that three three veils means the abdominal wall, the wall of the uterus and the ambycoreonic membrain
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We all heard about the Big bang theory but who would expect to find an account of the big bang theory 1400 years ago but there it is : Do the disbelievers not realize that the heavens and the earth used to be one entity then we parted them, the seperation process resulted the formation of multiple worlds, mentions of these world are made several times in the document.

Faraos kropp som dog av drunking och som hittades 1973 av Maurice Bucaille referenceras : Today, we will only preserve your body to set you up as a sign for subsequent generations, Indeed most people are heedles of our signs.
Faraon : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdUqe7XVG2s Maurice Bucaille studerade kroppen 1973
då den hittades , och kom fram till att den hade dött av drunkning,

Och hjul har hittats i röda sjön
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d90NM...eature=related från 7.00

And in the heavens , for many centuries it was believed that the moon had it own light , science discovered not so long ago that the moon did not generate its own light but acted as a reflector of the suns rays: "God is the one who made the sun liminiscient and the moon a light, and he designed its phases to provide you with a timing device. God did not create all this in vain"

"God is the one who created the night, the day, the sun and the moon. Each one is travelling in an orbit with its own motion." today we know how the celestrial organisation is balance by the position of stars in an defined orbit. and how the interplay of gravitational forces is related to the mass and speed of movement. each with its own motion

Thereafter. he made the earth egg shaped (Ostrich egg in arabic ) that was written a thousand years before columbus ,

We know now that the earths athmosphere acts a filter to prevent harmful radiations from reaching the surface : " And we made the sky a protective ceilin" "and we made water a requisite for every living thing" Science know that every living thing needs water for its existance.


Angående Bibeln,

An old bible found in Palestine confirms the Quran story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDrObm8aotM

"The problem with the Torah (old testament), is that it was compiled from multiple sources , therefore it needed someone (human), to sow it all together...which led to the conflicting reports on historical accounts.
e.g. Actual sites
Number of soldiers
etc"

Sen så blev Toran utdaterad när nya testamentet kom och nya testamentet blev utdaterad när koranen kom, Notera : i Nya testamentet finns inte ens ordet Trinity,

Sen så tror muslimer på att Gud skickad toran till israels barn och nya testamentet till Jesus som predika det till israels barn som förnekade Jesus och Nya testamentet,
Folk missuppfattade det nya testamentet och trodde att Jesus var guds son
Sen kom Koranen(Sista testamentet) till Muhammad, och denna händelse förutspåddes av Både Jesus och Moses och förklaras i första posten

here is the name [SLIDE 32] written in
ancient Hebrew as it appears in verse 16: ( ). It is read as :
"Mahammad". There is a plural used together with this Hebrew word, with
the plural it’s pronounced “Mahamaddim”. The ending letters 'im' is a plural
of respect, majesty and grandeur for God’s prophet,

“And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate to
be with you always.” (John 14:16).
The Greek used in John’s Gospel to mean “comforter” or “advocate” is
"Paraclete". But in reality this Greek word does not mean “comforter” or
“advocate”, in fact it’s not a Classical word at all. According to the former
Christian Theologian and Catholic Priest, Reverend David Benjamin
Keldani, in his book “Muhammad in the Bible”, he says on page 214,
[SLIDE 40] the word "Paraclete" is actually a corrupted form of the word
"Periklytos". The literal etymological meaning of "Periklytos" is “the most
illustrious, renowned and praiseworthy”. This compound noun is composed
of the prefix “peri” and “kleotis” derived from the verb “to glorify, to
praise”. Now then we should ask, what do the names "Muhammad" and
“Ahmad” mean in Arabic? Again, as we learned before, Muhammad means
“The praised and praiseworthy one” and Ahmad means “Highly Praised and
The one who praises God most”. Here is wikipedia’s definition of Ahmad
[SLIDE 41] and here is another western reference for the Name Muhammad
[SLIDE 42]. Now we see that the Greek word "Periklytos" as well as the
Arabic names Muhammad and Ahmad all share the meaning of "Praised" or
"Celebrated". This is further proof that the "Periklytos", the praise worthy
spirit that Jesus prophesied to come after him was no other than Prophet
Muhammad.

[61:6] And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!"

Du bevisade precis min poäng.
I rest my case.

Det är upp till var och en om man vill tro att det är på detta sättet!

Visst är det så. Tror man kan man få ihop vad man vill. Dock kan det bli farligt för andra om troende hamnar helt av banan.

Jesus är även förutspådd i vediska texter.

Jag har själv nyligen varit involverat i detta påstående på en annan tråd. Det hållar inte även för en ytlig kritik.

Men det är klart, misssionärer gripar alla halmstrå och hoppas på, att en del slinkar igenom granskningen.

Copypasta, copypasta, copypasta, ärad vare rymdguden av spaghetti. Ramen.

Ärligt talat, måste du kopiera saker av andra hela tiden utan att tänka och formulera dig själv?
Angående profetism och vetenskap i koranen finns det trådar om det här i forumet var alla dessa sk. argument refuterats. Läs och begrunda.
Lycka till.

Håller med, att klistra in en massa text på engelska gör att man inte ens orkar läsa, nu vet jag visserligen allt detta då jag läst det förut men någon som inte gjort det orkar knappast läsa en massa text på engelska.

Det som jag personligen finnar mest irriterande med denna sorts cut-and-paste är, att när jag har kommet ett par steg in i granskningen av det, så visar det sig oftast, att det endast är ett 'tomt' pseudo-argument som användaren inte har minsta kompetens eller vilja till att gå på djupet av.

Sen blir kritikerns roll utökad till också att börja som lärare i det berörde ämnes abc.

"Whois" om du skulle sluta med att tolka eller låta andra tolka bibeln och koranen. Jag är fullt övertygad om att den Jesus det står i Koranen om inte är den som det står i bibeln om. De smo skrev bibeln hörde ju om Jesus Guds röst som sa: "detta är min älskade son lyssna på honom". Det nämns inte om i koranen. Folk i närheten blev rädda för Guds röst.

Enda vi har gemensamt "whois" är att vi tror på Gud. Du ska nog inte ta koranen eller bibeln så hårt. Vissa personer vill helt enkelt upphöja sig själva och säga att de hört Guds röst, andra kanske hört Guds röst, andra kanske har hört Satan imitera Guds röst och producerat lögnaktiga texter. Ta det inte så hårt vad som står i de där töntiga blaskorna.

Men tron på Gud kommer jag aldrig att förlora. Inte upphöjer jag personer som varit med om NDU som kanske även Mohammed var med om. Men inte upphöjer jag dem till skyarna för det. Jesus kanske man kan upphöja lite för vad han påstått gjorde. Mohammed skulle säkerligen försvarat sig och förbannat dem som torterat honom i samma sits som Jesus. Det otroliga med Jesus var att han förlät dem som torterade honom, och ingen annan har det talats om i historien som gjort något liknande. Om det nu stämmer.