2012-01-13, 04:59
#1
Vad kan Sverigedemokraterna lära sig av Schweiziska Folkpartiet, SVP?
http://www.svp.ch/
SVP var med och stoppade minareter i Schweiz.
Personligen gillar jag att SVP driver (kravet om) en folkomröstning kring invandring.
Hur lika är partierna?
För mig har det varit intressant att läsa igenom SVP:s partiprogram (PDF - engelsk version).
http://www.svp.ch/display.cfm/id/101395
Mycket av statistiken lär vara nära den vi har i Sverige. Vi tar dock nästan i dubbelt så många invandrare (eller mer?). Notera att Schweiz även har en stor invandring av rika och välutbildade, de borde "snygga till" statistiken.
De ligger nu på 21,7% invandrare av totala befolkningen.
43,2% av de arbetslösa är invandrare
45,3% av de som får socialhjälp är invandrare
(Det kan hända att man skall tyda siffrorna ovan som % av invandrare, inte % av den aktuella kategorin, tex arbetslösa, men det är ju också illa)
Så här kommenterar de religion och islam
(Det citerade stycket är långt, men partiprogrammet saknar explicit angivelse av copyright, och de har nog inget emot att deras politiska idéer får spridning.)
Guaranteeing freedom of worship and conscience
Neither a party nor the state may dictate to others in matters of faith or prescribe the «right» faith for them. Our
freedom of worship and of conscience accords everyone in
our country liberty of thought, writing, speech and religion.
Under our Constitution, churches and religious communities therefore enjoy freedom to promulgate their beliefs and
carry on their religious activities. But the boundaries of this
tolerance lie at the point where religious communities hold
it in contempt or even openly oppose it.
Problems with Islamism
It is estimated that over 400,000 adherents of the Muslim
faith live in Switzerland. Their numbers are growing rapidly, due to the arrival of new immigrants and family members joining existing ones, as well as forced marriages and
high birth rates. Clearly, only a small minority sympathise
with Islamist ideas. But Muslim immigrants often come
from countries where democracy is unknown. They bring
with them ideas of law and order that are incompatible with
our legal system and democratic rules.
Our rules apply here...
Just as we adapt to the rules of Islamic states when we are
guests there, we must systematically insist on reciprocity
here. Parallel societies with their own legal systems cannot
be tolerated. Our legal order based on freedom must on no
account give way to Sharia law; our courts must not accept
an Islamic «cultural background» as a reason for imposing
a milder sentence. Toleration and even encouragement of
practices such as forced marriages, «honour killings», blood
feuds, female circumcision, marriages involving minors
or polygamy are totally unacceptable in our country. The
craven and cowardly attitude of certain politicians, journalists and representatives of the church is a matter of concern. The left, feminists and even equality offices generally
choose to remain silent.
... and they apply to everyone!
Our law on foreigners must contain suitable measures to
ensure that the issue of Islam does not become more acute
and exceed our capacity for integration. It must be made
clear that our rules apply here and that anyone who wishes
to live in this country must adapt to them. Equality before
the law takes precedence over «religious freedom». Such
things as dispensations from swimming lessons, cancelling
Christmas songs in kindergarten or special funeral arrangements are therefore unacceptable. Anyone who fails to support our free and democratic principles without reservation
must not be granted Swiss citizenship. The construction of
minarets is an expression of a desire for religious and political power and must therefore be rejected, as the electorate have decided.
Mycket av resonemangen känns igen från debatten i Sverige.
Behöver SD i Sverige en
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christoph_Blocher
som kan trycka in stora pengar (som väl CB gjort) som kan gå till partireklam etc?
http://www.svp.ch/
SVP var med och stoppade minareter i Schweiz.
Personligen gillar jag att SVP driver (kravet om) en folkomröstning kring invandring.
Hur lika är partierna?
För mig har det varit intressant att läsa igenom SVP:s partiprogram (PDF - engelsk version).
http://www.svp.ch/display.cfm/id/101395
Mycket av statistiken lär vara nära den vi har i Sverige. Vi tar dock nästan i dubbelt så många invandrare (eller mer?). Notera att Schweiz även har en stor invandring av rika och välutbildade, de borde "snygga till" statistiken.
De ligger nu på 21,7% invandrare av totala befolkningen.
43,2% av de arbetslösa är invandrare
45,3% av de som får socialhjälp är invandrare
(Det kan hända att man skall tyda siffrorna ovan som % av invandrare, inte % av den aktuella kategorin, tex arbetslösa, men det är ju också illa)
Så här kommenterar de religion och islam
(Det citerade stycket är långt, men partiprogrammet saknar explicit angivelse av copyright, och de har nog inget emot att deras politiska idéer får spridning.)
Guaranteeing freedom of worship and conscience
Neither a party nor the state may dictate to others in matters of faith or prescribe the «right» faith for them. Our
freedom of worship and of conscience accords everyone in
our country liberty of thought, writing, speech and religion.
Under our Constitution, churches and religious communities therefore enjoy freedom to promulgate their beliefs and
carry on their religious activities. But the boundaries of this
tolerance lie at the point where religious communities hold
it in contempt or even openly oppose it.
Problems with Islamism
It is estimated that over 400,000 adherents of the Muslim
faith live in Switzerland. Their numbers are growing rapidly, due to the arrival of new immigrants and family members joining existing ones, as well as forced marriages and
high birth rates. Clearly, only a small minority sympathise
with Islamist ideas. But Muslim immigrants often come
from countries where democracy is unknown. They bring
with them ideas of law and order that are incompatible with
our legal system and democratic rules.
Our rules apply here...
Just as we adapt to the rules of Islamic states when we are
guests there, we must systematically insist on reciprocity
here. Parallel societies with their own legal systems cannot
be tolerated. Our legal order based on freedom must on no
account give way to Sharia law; our courts must not accept
an Islamic «cultural background» as a reason for imposing
a milder sentence. Toleration and even encouragement of
practices such as forced marriages, «honour killings», blood
feuds, female circumcision, marriages involving minors
or polygamy are totally unacceptable in our country. The
craven and cowardly attitude of certain politicians, journalists and representatives of the church is a matter of concern. The left, feminists and even equality offices generally
choose to remain silent.
... and they apply to everyone!
Our law on foreigners must contain suitable measures to
ensure that the issue of Islam does not become more acute
and exceed our capacity for integration. It must be made
clear that our rules apply here and that anyone who wishes
to live in this country must adapt to them. Equality before
the law takes precedence over «religious freedom». Such
things as dispensations from swimming lessons, cancelling
Christmas songs in kindergarten or special funeral arrangements are therefore unacceptable. Anyone who fails to support our free and democratic principles without reservation
must not be granted Swiss citizenship. The construction of
minarets is an expression of a desire for religious and political power and must therefore be rejected, as the electorate have decided.
Mycket av resonemangen känns igen från debatten i Sverige.
Behöver SD i Sverige en
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christoph_Blocher
som kan trycka in stora pengar (som väl CB gjort) som kan gå till partireklam etc?
