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2005-01-16, 16:49
  #1
Medlem
BlizzardKings avatar
Israelen Dominik Suter fanns på FBI´s suspect list i februari 2002. Han är med största sannolikhet raderad nu, men det väcker ju en undran över varför han har funnits där.

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/CI-08-02.pdf

Nära två hundra (200) Israeler har tagits till förhör, och som grädde på moset greps 5 Israeler sen dom yttrat glädjescener och "något som liknade dans" under tiden WTC-tornen föll, många med anknytning till Israeliska företag, företrädesvis inom telecom-branschen och som sköter den mesta tele-trafiken i USA.

Så vitt jag förstår, var den första som skrev om detta, Carl Cameron på FOX News. Detta väckte stort rabalder i USA naturligtvis, och så småningom raderades dessa artiklar från FOX nätupplaga. Anledningen till det kan man ju undra över och i svensk media har jag inte sett någonting om denna spektakulära händelse.

Originalartiklarna från FOX finns upplagda här:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/Is...ing-Part-1.htm

CARL CAMERON, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Since Sept. 11, more than 60 Israelis have been arrested or detained, either under the new patriot anti-terrorism law, or for immigration violations. A handful of active Israeli military were among those detained, according to investigators, who say some of the detainees also failed polygraph questions when asked about alleged surveillance activities against and in the United States.

There is no indication that the Israelis were involved in the 9/11 attacks, but investigators suspect that they Israelis may have gathered intelligence about the attacks in advance, and not shared it. A highly placed investigator said there are "tie-ins." But when asked for details, he flatly refused to describe them, saying, "evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information."

Fox News has learned that one group of Israelis, spotted in North Carolina recently, is suspected of keeping an apartment in California to spy on a group of Arabs who the United States is also investigating for links to terrorism. Numerous classified documents obtained by Fox News indicate that even prior to Sept. 11, as many as 140 other Israelis had been detained or arrested in a secretive and sprawling investigation into suspected espionage by Israelis in the United States.

Investigators from numerous government agencies are part of a working group that's been compiling evidence since the mid '90s. These documents detail hundreds of incidents in cities and towns across the country that investigators say, "may well be an organized intelligence gathering activity."

[…]

Documents say they, "targeted and penetrated military bases." The DEA, FBI and dozens of government facilities, and even secret offices and unlisted private homes of law enforcement and intelligence personnel. The majority of those questioned, "stated they served in military intelligence, electronic surveillance intercept and or explosive ordinance units.

Another part of the investigation has resulted in the detention and arrests of dozens of Israelis at American mall kiosks, where they've been selling toys called Puzzle Car and Zoom Copter. Investigators suspect a front.
Shortly after The New York Times and Washington Post reported the Israeli detentions last months, the carts began vanishing. Zoom Copter's Web page says, "We are aware of the situation caused by thousands of mall carts being closed at the last minute. This in no way reflects the quality of the toy or its salability. The problem lies in the operators' business policies."

Why would Israelis spy in and on the U.S.? A general accounting office investigation referred to Israel as country A and said, "According to a U.S. intelligence agency, the government of country A conducts the most aggressive espionage operations against the U.S. of any U.S. ally."

A defense intelligence report said Israel has a voracious appetite for information and said, "the Israelis are motivated by strong survival instincts which dictate every possible facet of their political and economical policies. It aggressively collects military and industrial technology and the U.S. is a high priority target."

The document concludes: "Israel possesses the resources and technical capability to achieve its collection objectives.""

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/Is...ing-Part-2.htm

"…U.S. investigators suspect that some of these Israelis were spying on Arabs in this country, and may have turned up information on the planned terrorist attacks back in September that was not passed on."

[…]

"Here's how the system works. Most directory assistance calls, and virtually all call records and billing in the U.S. are done for the phone companies by Amdocs Ltd., an Israeli-based private elecommunications company.

Amdocs has contracts with the 25 biggest phone companies in America, and more worldwide. The White House and other secure government phone lines are protected, but it is virtually impossible to make a call on normal phones without generating an Amdocs record of it.

In recent years, the FBI and other government agencies have investigated Amdocs more than once. The firm has repeatedly and adamantly denied any security breaches or wrongdoing. But sources tell Fox News that in 1999, the super secret national security agency, headquartered in northern Maryland, issued what's called a Top Secret sensitive compartmentalized information report, TS/SCI, warning that records of calls in the United States were getting into foreign hands – in Israel, in particular."

[…]

"The Amdocs memo says the system should be used to prevent phone fraud. But U.S. counterintelligence analysts say it could also be used to spy through the phone system. Fox News has learned that the N.S.A has held numerous classified conferences to warn the F.B.I. and C.I.A. how Amdocs records could be used. At one NSA briefing, a diagram by the Argon national lab was used to show that if the phone records are not secure, major security breaches are possible.

Another briefing document said, "It has become increasingly apparent that systems and networks are vulnerable.…Such crimes always involve unauthorized persons, or persons who exceed their authorization...citing on exploitable vulnerabilities."

Those vulnerabilities are growing, because according to another briefing, the U.S. relies too much on foreign companies like Amdocs for high-tech equipment and software. "Many factors have led to increased dependence on code developed overseas.... We buy rather than train or develop solutions.""
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2005-01-16, 16:52
  #2
Medlem
BlizzardKings avatar
Del 2

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/Is...ing-Part-3.htm

"In tonight's report, we learn that the concern about phone security extends to another company, founded in Israel, that provides the technology that the U.S. government uses for electronic eavesdropping.

The company is Comverse Infosys, a subsidiary of an Israeli-run private telecommunications firm, with offices throughout the U.S. It provides wiretapping equipment for law enforcement."

[…]

"Congress insists the equipment it installs is secure. But the complaint about this system is that the wiretap computer programs made by Comverse have, in effect, a back door through which wiretaps themselves can be intercepted by unauthorized parties.

Adding to the suspicions is the fact that in Israel, Comverse works closely with the Israeli government, and under special programs, gets reimbursed for up to 50 percent of its research and development costs by the Israeli Ministry of Industry and Trade. But investigators within the DEA, INS and FBI have all told Fox News that to pursue or even suggest Israeli spying through Comverse is considered career suicide.

And sources say that while various F.B.I. inquiries into Comverse have been conducted over the years, they've been halted before the actual equipment has ever been thoroughly tested for leaks. A 1999 F.C.C. document indicates several government agencies expressed deep concerns that too many unauthorized non-law enforcement personnel can access the wiretap system. And the FBI's own nondescript office in Chantilly, Virginia that actually oversees the CALEA wiretapping program, is among the most agitated about the threat.

But there is a bitter turf war internally at F.B.I. It is the FBI's office in Quantico, Virginia, that has jurisdiction over awarding contracts and buying intercept equipment. And for years, they've thrown much of the business to Comverse. A handful of former U.S. law enforcement officials involved in awarding Comverse government contracts over the years now work for the company.

Numerous sources say some of those individuals were asked to leave government service under what knowledgeable sources call "troublesome circumstances" that remain under administrative review within the Justice Department.

And what troubles investigators most, particularly in New York, in the counter terrorism investigation of the World Trade Center attack, is that on a number of cases, suspects that they had sought to wiretap and survey immediately changed their telecommunications processes. They started acting much differently as soon as those supposedly secret wiretaps went into place."

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/Is...ing-Part-4.htm

"Los Angeles, 1997, a major local, state and federal drug investigating sours. The suspects: Israeli organized crime with operations in New York, Miami, Las Vegas, Canada, Israel and Egypt. The allegations: cocaine and ecstasy trafficking, and sophisticated white-collar credit card and computer fraud.

The problem: according to classified law enforcement documents obtained by Fox News, the bad guys had the cops’ beepers, cell phones, even home phones under surveillance. Some who did get caught admitted to having hundreds of numbers and using them to avoid arrest.

"This compromised law enforcement communications between LAPD detectives and other assigned law enforcement officers working various aspects of the case. The organization discovered communications between organized crime intelligence division detectives, the FBI and the Secret Service."

Shock spread from the DEA to the FBI in Washington, and then the CIA. An investigation of the problem, according to law enforcement documents, concluded, "The organization has apparent extensive access to database systems to identify pertinent personal and biographical information."

When investigators tried to find out where the information might have come from, they looked at Amdocs, a publicly traded firm based in Israel. Amdocs generates billing data for virtually every call in America, and they do credit checks. The company denies any leaks, but investigators still fear that the firm's data is getting into the wrong hands.

When investigators checked their own wiretapping system for leaks, they grew concerned about potential vulnerabilities in the computers that intercept, record and store the wiretapped calls. A main contractor is Comverse Infosys, which works closely with the Israeli government, and under a special grant program, is reimbursed for up to 50 percent of its research and development costs by Israel's Ministry of Industry and Trade.

Asked this week about another sprawling investigation and the detention of 60 Israeli since Sept. 11, the Bush administration treated the questions like hot potatoes."

Frågan är; Hur mycket visste den Israeliska underrättelsetjänsten [och deras allierade(?)] om vad som komma skulle?
Citera
2005-01-16, 17:22
  #3
Medlem
Ezzelinos avatar
Det finns förvisso indikationer på att något viktigt förtigits i samband med elfte september-attackerna, att där kan ha varit lite för många "israeliska konststudenter" i omlopp för att man tryggt ska kunna förmoda att den officiella linjen är helt korrekt...Frågan man kan ställa sig är också: om israeliska myndigheter kände något om elfte september-planerna i förväg, skulle de då verkligen ha försökt avstyra attackerna genom att informera sina amerikanska kollegor? Öppnades det inte storartade nya handlingsperspektiv just genom att USA i sina allra heligaste maktcentra anfölls av "samma slags terrorister som hotar Israels existens"?

AntiWars artikelarkiv om ämnet:

http://antiwar.com/israelfiles2.html
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2005-01-16, 20:34
  #4
Medlem
BlizzardKings avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av musegott
Sverige teg om operation Barbarossa som vi genom sigint kände till veckor i förväg ska dom ansvariga som ännu lever ställas inför krigsrätt menar ni?

Inte för att jag tror ett ögonblick på era konspirationsteorier...
Konspirationsteorier? Hittills är bara rena fakta presenterade, min gosse! Men låt oss gräva djupare i denna sörja.

Sunday Herald beskriver händelsen så här:

"...They were Israelis – and at least two of them were Israeli intelligence agents, working for Mossad, the equivalent of MI6 or the CIA.

Their discovery and arrest that morning is a matter of indisputable fact. To those who have investigated just what the Israelis were up to that day, the case raises one dreadful possibility: that Israeli intelligence had been shadowing the al-Qaeda hijackers as they moved from the Middle East through Europe and into America where they trained as pilots and prepared to suicide-bomb the symbolic heart of the United States. And the motive? To bind America in blood and mutual suffering to the Israeli cause.

After the attacks on New York and Washington, the former Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, was asked what the terrorist strikes would mean for US-Israeli relations. He said: “It’s very good.” Then he corrected himself, adding: “Well, it’s not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy [for Israel from Americans].”

If Israel’s closest ally felt the collective pain of mass civilian deaths at the hands of terrorists, then Israel would have an unbreakable bond with the world’s only hyperpower and an effective free hand in dealing with the Palestinian terrorists who had been murdering its innocent civilians as the second intifada dragged on throughout 2001.

It’s not surprising that the New Jersey housewife who first spotted the five Israelis and their white van wants to preserve her anonymity. She’s insisted that she only be identified as Maria. A neighbour in her apartment building had called her just after the first strike on the Twin Towers. Maria grabbed a pair of binoculars and, like millions across the world, she watched the horror of the day unfold.

As she gazed at the burning towers, she noticed a group of men kneeling on the roof of a white van in her parking lot. Here’s her recollection: “They seemed to be taking a movie. They were like happy, you know ... they didn’t look shocked to me. I thought it was strange.”

Maria jotted down the van’s registration and called the police. The FBI was alerted and soon there was a statewide all points bulletin put out for the apprehension of the van and its occupants. The cops traced the number, establishing that it belonged to a company called Urban Moving.

Tillhörande ingen mindre än: Dominik Suter!! [Min not.]

Police Chief John Schmidig said: “We got an alert to be on the lookout for a white Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration and writing on the side. Three individuals were seen celebrating in Liberty State Park after the impact. They said three people were jumping up and down.”

By 4pm on the afternoon of September 11, the van was spotted near New Jersey’s Giants stadium. A squad car pulled it over and inside were five men in their 20s. They were hustled out of the car with guns levelled at their heads and handcuffed.

In the car was $4700 in cash, a couple of foreign passports and a pair of box cutters – the concealed Stanley Knife-type blades used by the 19 hijackers who’d flown jetliners into the World Trade Centre and Pentagon just hours before. There were also fresh pictures of the men standing with the smouldering wreckage of the Twin Towers in the background. One image showed a hand flicking a lighter in front of the devastated buildings, like a fan at a pop concert. The driver of the van then told the arresting officers: “We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem.”

[...]

...The FBI questioned the firm’s Israeli owner, Dominik Otto Suter, but when agents returned to re-interview him a few days later, he was gone. An employee of Urban Moving said his co-workers had laughed about the Manhattan attacks the day they happened. “I was in tears,” the man said. “These guys were joking and that bothered me.

Vince Cannistraro, former chief of operations for counter-terrorism with the CIA, says the red flag went up among investigators when it was discovered that some of the Israelis’ names were found in a search of the national intelligence database. Cannistraro says many in the US intelligence community believed that some of the Israelis were working for Mossad and there was speculation over whether Urban Moving had been “set up or exploited for the purpose of launching an intelligence operation against radical Islamists”.

This makes it clear that there was no suggestion whatsoever from within American intelligence that the Israelis were colluding with the 9/11 hijackers – simply that the possibility remains that they knew the attacks were going to happen, but effectively did nothing to help stop them.

After the owner vanished, the offices of Urban Moving looked as if they’d been closed down in a big hurry. Mobile phones were littered about, the office phones were still connected and the property of at least a dozen clients were stacked up in the warehouse. The owner had cleared out his family home in New Jersey and returned to Israel.

[...]

...The men themselves claimed they’d read about the World Trade Centre attacks on the internet, couldn’t see it from their office and went to the parking lot for a better view. Their lawyers and the embassy say their ghoulish and sinister celebrations as the Twin Towers blazed and thousands died were due to youthful foolishness.

The respected New York Jewish newspaper, The Forward, reported in March 2002, however, that it had received a briefing on the case of the five Israelis from a US official who was regularly updated by law enforcement agencies. This is what he told The Forward: “The assessment was that Urban Moving Systems was a front for the Mossad and operatives employed by it.” He added that “the conclusion of the FBI was that they were spying on local Arabs”, but the men were released because they “did not know anything about 9/11”.

Back in Israel, several of the men discussed what happened on an Israeli talk show. One of them made this remarkable comment: “The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event.” But how can you document an event unless you know it is going to happen?

We are now deep in conspiracy theory territory. But there is more than a little circumstantial evidence to show that Mossad – whose motto is “By way of deception, thou shalt do war” – was spying on Arab extremists in the USA and may have known that September 11 was in the offing, yet decided to withhold vital information from their American counterparts which could have prevented the terror attacks.

Following September 11, 2001, more than 60 Israelis were taken into custody under the Patriot Act and immigration laws. One highly placed investigator told Carl Cameron of Fox News that there were “tie-ins” between the Israelis and September 11; the hint was clearly that they’d gathered intelligence on the planned attacks but kept it to themselves.

[...]

Another group of around 140 Israelis were detained prior to September 11, 2001, in the USA as part of a widespread investigation into a suspected espionage ring run by Israel inside the USA. Government documents refer to the spy ring as an “organised intelligence-gathering operation” designed to “penetrate government facilities”. Most of those arrested had served in the Israeli armed forces – but military service is compulsory in Israel. Nevertheless, a number had an intelligence background.

The first glimmerings of an Israeli spying exercise in the USA came to light in spring 2001, when the FBI sent a warning to other federal agencies alerting them to be wary of visitors calling themselves “Israeli art students” and attempting to bypass security at federal buildings in order to sell paintings. A Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) report suggested the Israeli calls “may well be an organised intelligence-gathering activity”. Law enforcement documents say that the Israelis “targeted and penetrated military bases” as well as the DEA, FBI and dozens of government facilities, including secret offices and the unlisted private homes of law enforcement and intelligence personnel.

A number of Israelis questioned by the authorities said they were students from Bezalel Academy of Art and Design, but Pnina Calpen, a spokeswoman for the Israeli school, did not recognise the names of any Israelis mentioned as studying there in the past 10 years. A federal report into the so-called art students said many had served in intelligence and electronic signal intercept units during their military service."
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2005-01-16, 20:57
  #5
Medlem
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av Ezzelino
Frågan man kan ställa sig är också: om israeliska myndigheter kände något om elfte september-planerna i förväg, skulle de då verkligen ha försökt avstyra attackerna genom att informera sina amerikanska kollegor? Öppnades det inte storartade nya handlingsperspektiv just genom att USA i sina allra heligaste maktcentra anfölls av "samma slags terrorister som hotar Israels existens"?

Om man utgår från att judar är lömska typer som gör allt för egen vinning och skiter i 3000 döda amerikaner så har du nog rätt. Dessbättre är det nog bara inbitna "israelkritiker" som ni som ställer er frågan.
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2005-01-16, 21:14
  #6
Medlem
Ezzelinos avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av Robert E
Om man utgår från att judar är lömska typer som gör allt för egen vinning och skiter i 3000 döda amerikaner så har du nog rätt. Dessbättre är det nog bara inbitna "israelkritiker" som ni som ställer er frågan.

Och varför skulle någon regim någonstans höja på ögonbrynen inför 3000 dödsoffer, om den potentiella långsiktiga vinsten för den egna statsbildningen skulle kunna bli närmast oöverskådligt stor? För att de flesta av dem satt i WTC-skraporna, tydligen? Hur många dör i trafikolyckor, genom mord och självmord i USA varje år? Tror du Mossads ledning ligger och vrider sig av sömnlöshet för den sakens skull, eller p.g.a. långdragna konflikter i Afrika som kräver miljoner döda, och där män med israeliska pass tillhör de främsta av de illegala vapenhandlare som tillhandahåller mordvapnen? Den storpolitiska världen är naturligtvis kallsinnig inför främmande nationers förluster i människoliv.
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2005-01-17, 11:22
  #7
Medlem
El Zorros avatar
flyttas till konspirationer.
Citera
2005-01-17, 22:52
  #8
Medlem
Ezzelinos avatar
De som eventuellt inbillar sig att Irakkriget inte har med Israel att göra bör utöka och fördjupa sin kunskap om elementära geopolitiska och ideologiska sammanhang:

http://www.ceip.org/files/Iraq/index.htm#regime_change

http://vho.org/tr/2003/3/Sniegoski285-298.html
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2005-01-17, 23:57
  #9
Medlem
Ezzelinos avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av BlizzardKing
Ja, ju mer man fördjupar sig i detta vanvettiga krig, desto mer framstår Israel som den största orsaken.

När du säger något sånt där gör du Per Ahlmark och hela DN:s murvelredaktion väldigt besvikna ...

http://feralnews.com/links/iraq_war_and_zionism.html
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2005-01-18, 16:21
  #10
Medlem
BlizzardKings avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av Ezzelino
När du säger något sånt där gör du Per Ahlmark och hela DN:s murvelredaktion väldigt besvikna ...

http://feralnews.com/links/iraq_war_and_zionism.html
Hahaha! "Skadeglädje är den enda sanna glädjen" sägs det!

Jag hade det tvivelaktiga nöjet att springa på "den lille sparvhöken" på en lunchrestaurang på Söder för en 17-18 år sen. Och jag säger blott; Om blickar kunde döda! Hans ögon utstrålade så mycket hat så minnesbilden sitter fortfarande etsad i hjärnan på mig. Och på den tiden visste jag inte så mycket mer än att han varit partiledare för folkpartiet. Men han såg närmast jagad ut och det är ju inte så konstigt om man medverkar till att sprida så mycket lögner!


Mer "mystik" runt Israels "inblandning" i 9/11-tragedin:

http://www.atnewyork.com/news/article.php/8471_893851

"Two employees at New York-based instant messaging start-up Odigo <http://www.odigo.com> received IM warnings about two hours before the aerial attacks in two U.S cities, the company confirmed Friday.

Odigo, which has a satellite office in Israel, said employees there received pop-up text messages containing advance warning of the attacks but said the IMs did not mention the World Trade Center specifically, or any other targets.

The contents of the IM messages, including the Internet Protocol (IP) address of the sender, was given to the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI), Odigo spokesman Alex Diamandis told atNewYork.

"Without going into details, the message was most noteworthy due to the timing, not due to the substance of the 'warning.' It could easily be coincidence," Diamandis said.

Citing the ongoing investigations, Diamandis declined to provide specifics of the actual messages or the identity or location of the sender.

He said the employees who received the IM messages were not familiar with the sender. After the attacks, the employees notified Odigo management, who turned the information over to Israeli law enforcement authorities."
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2005-01-19, 10:09
  #11
Medlem
BlizzardKings avatar
Svårt att verifiera sanningshalten i detta men var och en kan bilda sig en egen uppfattning med hjälp av hittills presenterade artiklar.

http://www.newworldpeace.com/spyring2a.html

http://www.theunjustmedia.com/how_ca...e_minister.htm

http://www.11september.2itb.com/bbc_letter.htm

"How Can Ehud Barak appear in the BBC studio just minutes after the final attack with a prepared speech?

The bombings took the world by surprise. Military officials, Government figures, leaders of foreign states all appeared on television and were clearly in a state of shock. Taliban could not arrange an English speaking person at such short notice to appear for their interview on CNN who were immediately blaming Bin Laden.

As if by magic, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak appeared from BBCs main office in London with a pre written/prepared speech. He Spent 30 minutes speaking about how dangerous some "Islamic" countries and terrorists are. At the end of the interview, the news reporter stated that Mr. Barak joined him an hour before it was broadcasted, meaning Barak was there even an hour earlier. In real time of events this means he was there within minutes of the blast, with a pre-written interview. He knew beforehand that the attacks would take place. It was not difficult to see that Barak came with a pre written speech as he is quick to point out all of Israel's enemies which he calls "rogue states".

The answers to the interview were carefully prepared to use public sentiments created by the blast, against enemies of Israel. These could not have been developed between the time of attacks and Barak appearing on BBC. Barak's presence in UK could also not have been co-incidental at that crucial time.

If you combine [all of the above] with the fact that Ariel Sharon cancelled his planned visit to US without any explanation 2 days before he was due to arrive, sales of millions of shares in Airline and Insurance companies a couple of days before the attacks, 4000 Jews not turning up for work at WTC on the day of the attacks, and you have a picture building up.

On the other hand, there is no hard evidence against Bin Laden, only circumstantial. There are no witnesses, who have described how the hijackings were planned and how these are linked to Bin Laden. There are no documents and no electronic trails, through emails or financial transactions towards Bin Laden. Up to 5 of the 19 hijackers on the planes have been wrongly named by the FBI. Bin Laden has no fax or telephone (if he had a satellite phone he would be easily traceable).

Ehud Barak Knew of the U.S. Attack
BBC World Service, London
By Jerry Morgan

Please note, the source of this article has not been verified, but the fact that Ehud Barak appearing live on BBC more or less immediately after the WTC attack condemning the Arabs has been reported in another article, entitled, “Orient Express Jaffa -- September 12, 2001” by Israel Shamir in Section Four, of the Axis of Evil Pie Menu, American Republic’s Unhealthy Intertwinement with the State of Israel."
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2005-02-06, 18:07
  #12
Medlem
Ezzelinos avatar
Eftersom vi nu fått nytillskott i revisionismtrådarna, och av idel sakliga och sansade debattörer som principiellt avhåller sig från personangrepp och politiska demoniseringar , så återuppväcker jag denna potentiellt intressanta tråd om de orsaker till Irakinvasionen och den aggressiva amerikanska Mellanösterpolitiken som alla väluppfostrade DN-läsare talar mycket tyst om:

http://www.nowarforisrael.com/
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