[WW2] - De "rikstyska" koncentrationslägren

Even after the establishment of the gas chamber the shootings continued in Ravensbrück. The gas chamber staff consisted of SS men with experiences in Auschwitz, for example their chief Schwarzhuber, who was Schutzhaftlagerführer of the mens camp in Auschwitz-Birkenau.

During the first Ravensbrück trial in Hamburg (1946) Schwarzhuber stated:

"I was present at a gassing. 150 women were always forced into the gas chamber. Hauptscharführer Moll ordered the women to undress and that they had to join a delousing. Then they were led to the gassing room and the doors were closed. A male prisoner, wearing a gas mask, entered the roof and threw a gas can through a small opening, which he immediately closed after that, into the room. I heard groaning and whimpering in the room. After 2-3 minutes it became silent in the room..."
The SS attempts to keep the gassings secret, failed. A female German prisoner could secretely add (already under the date 9 February 1945) to her diary:
"Something terrible: Those who were sent on transport yesterday were sent to the gas chambers..."

In December 1947 the chief warder of the camp "Uckermark", Closius-Neudeck, testified:

"When the vans were completely filled, both SS men and I drove in the direction of the crematory. There we had to unload the prisoners at a toolshed. In my function as Oberaufseherin I ordered them to undress completely (...) When all women were undressed, a disguised SS man in a white coat brought the women, one after the other, to another toolshed. When this shed was filled, it was locked. Then two male prisoners were ordered to enter the roof.

I have seen how they dropped something there. Then the opening on the roof was closed. After the two prisoners had climbed down the roof, the motors of the lorries were switched on so that the screaming of the victims could not be heard."

http://www.deathcamps.org/gas_chambe...ensbrueck.html

"---Since 1960, that is to say for 22 years, we have awaited the rigorously documented study which would let us see why it had been suddenly necessary to stop believing in the "gassings" at Dachau, Bergen-Belsen, Buchenwald, Oranienburg-Sachsenhausen, Ravensbrück, and Neuengamme, while at the same time continuing to believe in the "gassings" in the camps located in communist Poland. Do we not have at our disposal for all the camps an indiscriminate mass of "proofs," of "testimonies," of "confessions"? Have they not executed or driven to suicide the officials of camps where, finally, it is revealed, as if by the working of the Holy Spirit, that there had never been a homicidal "gas chamber"?---"

Christie put to Hilberg that Marsalek claimed in the affidavit that Ziereis said that 1 million or 1.5 million people were killed at Castle Hartheim. Was that true?

"There were people gassed at Hartheim," said Hilberg, "certainly not the number that you have just quoted, no...

In his confession, which was written up from memory ten months later by Hans Marsalek, one of the prisoners who had interrogated him, Ziereis named Dr. Krebsbach as the man who was responsible for setting up the gas chamber at Mauthausen.

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Mautha...usenStaff.html

TRANSLATION OF DOCUMENT 3870-PS

[Page 790]

AFFIDAVIT OF HANS MARSALEK

I, Hans Marsalek, after first being duly sworn, declare as follows:

[…]
2. On 22 May 1945, the Commandant of the Concentration Camp Mauthausen,
Franz Ziereis, was shot while escaping by American soldiers and was
taken to the branch camp of Gusen. Franz Ziereis was interrogated by me
in the presence of the Commander of the 11th Armored Division (American
Armored Division) Seibel; the former prisoner and physician Dr.
Koszeinski; and in the presence of another Polish citizen, name unknown,
for a period of six to eight hours.
[…]

I, Hans Marsalek, declare in addition, as follows:

With reference to the number of one million to one and a half million
murdered human beings in Hartheim, which was the number given by Franz
Ziereis, it is pointed out to him by me that this number was too high.
He however insisted on this number and explained to me that actually a
great number of mentally deranged from the entire Southern Area of
Germany were shipped there and liquidated. This accounts for the high
number of victims. In spite of his serious injury and his knowledge that
he would probably die soon, Franz Ziereis tried to put the greater part
of the guilt on his subordinates.
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/imt/nc...nca-06-3870-ps

Ziereis förhördes naturligvis flera ggr av de allierade. Ingen av dessa påstår sig höra Ziereis "erkänna" 1.5 miljoner gasade i Hartheim. Det stod i Marsaleks "minnesanteckniongar". Och även OM de skulle gjort det, så skulle det vara rätt lätt att bortse från siffrorna.
Vad gäller gaskammaren i sig, så kan ju den uppgiften styrkas med andra vittnesmål. Det är skillnaden.

Ingen av dessa påstår sig höra Ziereis "erkänna" 1.5 miljoner gasade i Hartheim.

Och du fortsätter din cut and paste-monolog. I själva verket säger Hilberg:

Ziereis 1.5 miljoner"bekännelse" - som jag skrivit tre ggr nu - är inte bekräftad på något vis. Det är bara en person som säger sig hört detta.

Vidare, Hans Marsalek skrev ner "från minnet" 10 månader senare vad Zieries skulle sagt till en fånge.

[...]vad Zieries skulle sagt till en fånge.

Franz Ziereis was interrogated by me in the presence of the Commander of the 11th Armored Division (American Armored Division) Seibel; the former prisoner and physician Dr. Koszeinski; and in the presence of another Polish citizen, name unknown, for a period of six to eight hours.

Vad gäller gaskammaren i sig, så kan ju den uppgiften styrkas med andra vittnesmål. Det är skillnaden.

Det går utmærkt bra att gasa djur eller folk i ett gistet utedass om så ær, det måste inte vara 100% tætt æven om det ær en førdel av olika anledningar.
http://www.flashback.org/showpost.p...postcount=1919

Ziereis blev ”naturligtvis” förhörd flera gånger innan han försökte fly och fick tre kulor i kroppen?

Han förhördes i minst två omgångar över två dagar.
Hans "dödsiffror" är illa bekräftade. Det är bara hörsägen. Oavsett vilket
är det inget att fästa sig vid. Det som matchar andra uppgifter är dock
av värde.
http://www.flashback.org/showpost.p...&postcount=297

He disguised himself and hid in the camp, and was shot
after the liberation while trying to get away."
[…]
"On 22 May 1945, the Commandant of the Concentration Camp Mauthausen,
Franz Ziereis, was shot while escaping by American soldiers and was
taken to the branch camp of Gusen.
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people.../ziereis-death

The photograph below shows Ziereis being interrogated on his deathbed; the caption says that the date was 24.5.1945. Some versions of the story say that he was interrogated on the night of May 22 - 23 and that he died on the morning of the 23rd.
http://www.scrapbookpages.com/mautha...ber/Gas01.html

On the morning of 3 May, Franz Ziereis, commander of the concentration camp Mauthausen and in this capacity also commander of the camp Gusen, left Mauthausen to hide from the allied troops in his hunting lodge in Spital am Phyrn together with his wife Ida and their three children. Almost three weeks later, on 23 May, he was apprehended by a patrol unit of the US army accompanied by former prisoners and shot when attempting to escape. Ziereis was seriously wounded and taken to the American 131st Evacuation Hospital in the former SS barracks at Gusen, where he was interrogated for several hours by members of the US army, including commander Richard R. Seibel who was responsible for camp Mauthausen, and several former prisoners.
On the evening of the 24 May 1945, Ziereis died from his injuries in the military hospital in Gusen. The original interrogation document was handed over to Colonel Seibel and served as evidence in the forthcoming war crimes trials. Further records were drawn up by former prisoners who had attended the interrogation session. As a result, several versions were in circulation, which were, however, largely identical in content.
http://en.gusen-memorial.at/db/admin...=20&fromlist=1

"---The Museum at Mauthausen puts the total number of deaths in the whole Mauthausen system at 105,000. Mauthausen was a camp for the most hard-core prisoners including the most dedicated Communists who would have had a motive for exaggerating the death statistics for the camp. The Soviet occupation of Austria lasted until 1955. The Memorial Site at Mauthausen was set up in 1949 during this time of Communist influence.---"

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