Dess nummer var iaf RA-78830 och det ska ha flugit i veckan via Armenien till Iran och sedan över Saudi till Syrien. Sedan vidare till Belgorod. När det hade lyft från Belgorod var det väg i nordostlig riktning.
Mao mindre sannolikt att det var krigsfångar ombord.
Jag hörde också också att piloterna precis innan de kraschade ropade : ”Länge leve Putin! Vår befriare!”
Sluta vara så lättlurad, Ilyushin-76 har ingen katapultstol och du kan inte ta dig ur planet om de störtar ner mot marken. Du ser på videon att piloterna har ingen kontroll över planet.
Aljazeera publicerade medvetet rysk propaganda och du svalde och spred den vidare. Du är vad ryssarna kallar en nyttig idiot.
nja jag skrev ju som sagt "om det stämmer"
jag litar lika lite på propagandan från ryssarna/slaverna i kreml som slaverna (lillryssarna) i kiev
jag tittar runt lite och låser mig inte vid någon typ av propaganda
du är väl själv inte så naiv att du litar på allt som ukraina väljer att föra fram?
Planet flög förmodligen vapen från Iran till Belgorod den 24 Jan. När planet sköts ned flög det i nord östlig riktning från Belgorod mot Ryssland. Det fanns ingen gissla på planet.
Ryssland sprider desinformation och är rädda för ukrainsk antiflygvapen. Ryssarna har förlorat 3 stora transportplan på 3 dagar.
Det var inga fångar i planet då planet var påväg mot Ryssland. Ett plan påväg från Belgorod till Ryssland kan inte innehålla fångar som ska bytas ut i Belgorod.
Ja det var ju tråkigt om Ukraina har skjutit ner ett plan med ukrainare ombord, men allting kan ju hända i krig.
Der var väl med vapen från väst dessutom.
Finns rätt mycket information om vad man vet än så länge på RT.com
Deadly IL-76 crash: What we know so far
A military aircraft carrying 65 Ukrainian POWs came down in Russia’s Belgorod Region, killing all passengers on board
Deadly IL-76 crash: What we know so far
The Russian IL-76 heavy transport plane was carrying 65 captured Ukrainian military personnel when it crashed in Belgorod Region some 90km (55 miles) from the Ukrainian border. The Russian Defense Ministry has claimed that the aircraft was brought down by Kiev’s forces.
Here is what we know so far about what happened.
The plane crash
On Wednesday at 11:15 Moscow time, reports came in that an IL-76 military transport plane carrying Ukrainian POWs had crashed and exploded in a field near the village of Yablonovo in the Korochansky district of Belgorod Region, which neighbors Ukraine.
Belgorod plane attack: Kiev deliberately shot down plane carrying its POWs, Moscow says
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Belgorod plane attack: Kiev deliberately shot down plane carrying its POWs, Moscow says
Several people captured footage of the crash and shared videos of the incident on social media.
According to the Russian Defense Ministry, the plane was flying from the Chkalovsky airfield to Belgorod and was transporting the Ukrainian personnel for a prisoner swap with Kiev. Aside from the POWs, there were also six crew members and three accompanying personnel.
All those on board the aircraft were killed in the crash, according to the governor of Belgorod Region, Vyacheslav Gladkov. However, the crash did not cause any damage to structures or people on the ground, landing five to six kilometers from the nearest village.
According to Russian officials, another plane carrying an additional 80 Ukrainian POWs was also in the air at the time of the incident. After the first plane crashed, the second aircraft was diverted, according to MP Andrey Kartapolov.
What was the cause?
Following the incident, the Russian Defense Ministry released a statement accusing Kiev’s forces of shooting down the plane using an anti-aircraft missile system. The ministry claimed that Russia’s Aerospace Forces radars recorded the launch of two Ukrainian missiles from the village of Liptsy in Kharkov Region.
The ministry has also stated that the Ukrainian side was informed of the flight ahead of time and was aware that it was carrying POWs, noting that the prisoner exchange was supposed to take place later in the afternoon at the Kolotilovka checkpoint.
Ukrainian media reports
Shortly after the crash, the Ukrainian media outlet Ukrainskaya Pravda released a report claiming that it had received confirmation from Kiev's military that the its forces had shot the plane down and that it had been told that the aircraft was believed to be carrying S-300 missiles.
Shortly after, however, the outlet redacted that statement, stating only that Kiev had confirmed that it was aware of the plane crash but could not confirm it was carrying Ukrainian POWs.
Meanwhile, other Western media outlets such as US-state funded Radio Liberty have confirmed from sources within the Kiev government that a prisoner exchange with Russia was indeed scheduled for Wednesday, but no further comments have been provided.
Kiev’s intelligence
A representative of the Ukrainian Intelligence Service, Andrey Yusov, has also confirmed the scheduled prisoner exchange.
Meanwhile, the Ukrainian Coordination Headquarters for matters regarding prisoners of war has refused to confirm the planned swap, only stating that it was “collecting and analyzing all the necessary information” while urging the media and its citizens to refrain from speculating on the incident. The body also noted that Russia is “actively carrying out special information operations” aimed at destabilizing Ukrainian society.
Russia’s reaction
The head of Russia’s State Duma Defense Committee, Andrey Kartapolov, has suggested that the IL-76 was shot down using Western Patriot or Iris-T air defense missiles. He has also proposed calling off any further prisoner swap negotiations with Kiev and insisted that Ukraine should officially be branded a terrorist state and its government a terrorist cell.
Kiev attack on POW plane ‘insane barbarism’ – Moscow
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Kiev attack on POW plane ‘insane barbarism’ – Moscow
State Duma Chairman Vyacheslav Volodin has called on Russian lawmakers to make a formal address to the US and Germany, urging them to stop actively supporting the “Nazi regime” in Kiev, which has stooped to killing its own POWs.
Meanwhile, the Russian Defense Ministry stated that Kiev had once again “shown its true colors” by committing this “terrorist act” against its own citizens in an attempt to slander Moscow's forces.
The Russian Foreign Ministry has said that this act of “mindless barbarism” puts into question the possibility of reaching future agreements with Kiev, noting that “there is no doubt” that the Ukrainian authorities will eventually violate any guarantees that they give.
The ministry also stressed that the regime of Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky, which was propped up by the US and its NATO allies, has once again proven to be a threat not only to Russia, but to “Ukraine itself, its citizens and the whole world.”
Former Russian President and current deputy chairman of the National Security Council Dmitry Medvedev has suggested that the downing of the IL-76 may have been the result of internal political turmoil between “neo-Nazi elites in Kiev.” He suggested that “it’ll be even worse in the future” as the Ukrainian government will continue slaughtering its own troops and POWs and bombing its own cities to protect its power and money.
Ukraine has used “measures of destruction” against Russian transport aircraft in Belgorod Region and will continue to do so, the General Staff in Kiev said on Wednesday after an Il-76 carrying Ukrainian prisoners was shot down.
The transport crashed at 11:15am local time in the Korochansky district, about 90 km (55 miles) from the border. Initial reports in Ukrainian media, since deleted, claimed that Ukrainian forces had shot it down because it had been carrying S-300 missiles.
In a Facebook post on Wednesday evening, the Ukrainian General Staff accused Russia of “terror” attacks on Kharkov and said the “recorded intensity of shelling is directly related to the increase in the number of military transport aircraft that have been heading to Belgorod airport in recent times.”
”In order to reduce the missile threat, the Armed Forces of Ukraine not only control the airspace, but also track in detail the rocket launch points and the logistics of their supply, especially with the use of military transport aviation,” the General Staff said, adding that AFU will “continue to use measures of destruction of means of delivery and airspace control to eliminate the terrorist threat.”
Deadly IL-76 crash: What we know so far
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Deadly IL-76 crash: What we know so far
According to the Russian Defense Ministry, the plane was transporting 65 Ukrainian POWs, who were scheduled to be exchanged later in the day at the Kolotilovka checkpoint. Ukraine was informed of the flight in advance, so the military in Kiev knew it was carrying POWs, the Russian military said. Another plane with 80 more prisoners turned around after the first transport was struck and landed safely.
Russian radars detected the launch of two missiles from the village of Liptsy in Ukraine’s Kharkov Region. Six crew members and three Russian soldiers on board the IL-76 were killed along with the 65 Ukrainian captives.
”By committing this terrorist act, the Ukrainian leadership showed its true face, disregarding the lives of its citizens,” the Russian military said.
This would not be the first time Ukraine has targeted its own POWs in Russian custody. In August 2022, Ukrainian artillery used US-supplied HIMARS launchers for a rocket strike on a penal colony in Yelenovka, in the Donetsk People’s Republic. The facility housed almost 200 prisoners from the notorious neo-Nazi ‘Azov’ unit, who had surrendered in Mariupol several months prior. The missile strike killed 50 of them and wounded another 73. Russian authorities later revealed that the location was known to the Ukrainians because the government in Kiev had requested to have the prisoners moved there.
Ja det var ju tråkigt om Ukraina har skjutit ner ett plan med ukrainare ombord, men allting kan ju hända i krig.
Der var väl med vapen från väst dessutom.
Var är alla kroppar då? Ryssland har ju haft en hel dag på sig att leverera en video med 60+ döda ukrainska fångar. Det finns istället flera videos från kraschen som visar delar från planet och bara ett par kroppar. Ryssland skulle ju alla gånger ta tillfället i akt att visa upp döda ukrainska fångar då det vore en enorm propagandavinst.
Ju längre tid det tar innan en sådan video kommer desto mindre trovärdighet får den då de kan ha manipulerat området.
Finns rätt mycket information om vad man vet än så länge på RT.com
Deadly IL-76 crash: What we know so far
A military aircraft carrying 65 Ukrainian POWs came down in Russia’s Belgorod Region, killing all passengers on board
Deadly IL-76 crash: What we know so far
The Russian IL-76 heavy transport plane was carrying 65 captured Ukrainian military personnel when it crashed in Belgorod Region some 90km (55 miles) from the Ukrainian border. The Russian Defense Ministry has claimed that the aircraft was brought down by Kiev’s forces.
Here is what we know so far about what happened.
The plane crash
On Wednesday at 11:15 Moscow time, reports came in that an IL-76 military transport plane carrying Ukrainian POWs had crashed and exploded in a field near the village of Yablonovo in the Korochansky district of Belgorod Region, which neighbors Ukraine.
Belgorod plane attack: Kiev deliberately shot down plane carrying its POWs, Moscow says
Read more
Belgorod plane attack: Kiev deliberately shot down plane carrying its POWs, Moscow says
Several people captured footage of the crash and shared videos of the incident on social media.
According to the Russian Defense Ministry, the plane was flying from the Chkalovsky airfield to Belgorod and was transporting the Ukrainian personnel for a prisoner swap with Kiev. Aside from the POWs, there were also six crew members and three accompanying personnel.
All those on board the aircraft were killed in the crash, according to the governor of Belgorod Region, Vyacheslav Gladkov. However, the crash did not cause any damage to structures or people on the ground, landing five to six kilometers from the nearest village.
According to Russian officials, another plane carrying an additional 80 Ukrainian POWs was also in the air at the time of the incident. After the first plane crashed, the second aircraft was diverted, according to MP Andrey Kartapolov.
What was the cause?
Following the incident, the Russian Defense Ministry released a statement accusing Kiev’s forces of shooting down the plane using an anti-aircraft missile system. The ministry claimed that Russia’s Aerospace Forces radars recorded the launch of two Ukrainian missiles from the village of Liptsy in Kharkov Region.
The ministry has also stated that the Ukrainian side was informed of the flight ahead of time and was aware that it was carrying POWs, noting that the prisoner exchange was supposed to take place later in the afternoon at the Kolotilovka checkpoint.
Ukrainian media reports
Shortly after the crash, the Ukrainian media outlet Ukrainskaya Pravda released a report claiming that it had received confirmation from Kiev's military that the its forces had shot the plane down and that it had been told that the aircraft was believed to be carrying S-300 missiles.
Shortly after, however, the outlet redacted that statement, stating only that Kiev had confirmed that it was aware of the plane crash but could not confirm it was carrying Ukrainian POWs.
Meanwhile, other Western media outlets such as US-state funded Radio Liberty have confirmed from sources within the Kiev government that a prisoner exchange with Russia was indeed scheduled for Wednesday, but no further comments have been provided.
Kiev’s intelligence
A representative of the Ukrainian Intelligence Service, Andrey Yusov, has also confirmed the scheduled prisoner exchange.
Meanwhile, the Ukrainian Coordination Headquarters for matters regarding prisoners of war has refused to confirm the planned swap, only stating that it was “collecting and analyzing all the necessary information” while urging the media and its citizens to refrain from speculating on the incident. The body also noted that Russia is “actively carrying out special information operations” aimed at destabilizing Ukrainian society.
Russia’s reaction
The head of Russia’s State Duma Defense Committee, Andrey Kartapolov, has suggested that the IL-76 was shot down using Western Patriot or Iris-T air defense missiles. He has also proposed calling off any further prisoner swap negotiations with Kiev and insisted that Ukraine should officially be branded a terrorist state and its government a terrorist cell.
Kiev attack on POW plane ‘insane barbarism’ – Moscow
Read more
Kiev attack on POW plane ‘insane barbarism’ – Moscow
State Duma Chairman Vyacheslav Volodin has called on Russian lawmakers to make a formal address to the US and Germany, urging them to stop actively supporting the “Nazi regime” in Kiev, which has stooped to killing its own POWs.
Meanwhile, the Russian Defense Ministry stated that Kiev had once again “shown its true colors” by committing this “terrorist act” against its own citizens in an attempt to slander Moscow's forces.
The Russian Foreign Ministry has said that this act of “mindless barbarism” puts into question the possibility of reaching future agreements with Kiev, noting that “there is no doubt” that the Ukrainian authorities will eventually violate any guarantees that they give.
The ministry also stressed that the regime of Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky, which was propped up by the US and its NATO allies, has once again proven to be a threat not only to Russia, but to “Ukraine itself, its citizens and the whole world.”
Former Russian President and current deputy chairman of the National Security Council Dmitry Medvedev has suggested that the downing of the IL-76 may have been the result of internal political turmoil between “neo-Nazi elites in Kiev.” He suggested that “it’ll be even worse in the future” as the Ukrainian government will continue slaughtering its own troops and POWs and bombing its own cities to protect its power and money.
Ukraine has used “measures of destruction” against Russian transport aircraft in Belgorod Region and will continue to do so, the General Staff in Kiev said on Wednesday after an Il-76 carrying Ukrainian prisoners was shot down.
The transport crashed at 11:15am local time in the Korochansky district, about 90 km (55 miles) from the border. Initial reports in Ukrainian media, since deleted, claimed that Ukrainian forces had shot it down because it had been carrying S-300 missiles.
In a Facebook post on Wednesday evening, the Ukrainian General Staff accused Russia of “terror” attacks on Kharkov and said the “recorded intensity of shelling is directly related to the increase in the number of military transport aircraft that have been heading to Belgorod airport in recent times.”
”In order to reduce the missile threat, the Armed Forces of Ukraine not only control the airspace, but also track in detail the rocket launch points and the logistics of their supply, especially with the use of military transport aviation,” the General Staff said, adding that AFU will “continue to use measures of destruction of means of delivery and airspace control to eliminate the terrorist threat.”
Deadly IL-76 crash: What we know so far
Read more
Deadly IL-76 crash: What we know so far
According to the Russian Defense Ministry, the plane was transporting 65 Ukrainian POWs, who were scheduled to be exchanged later in the day at the Kolotilovka checkpoint. Ukraine was informed of the flight in advance, so the military in Kiev knew it was carrying POWs, the Russian military said. Another plane with 80 more prisoners turned around after the first transport was struck and landed safely.
Russian radars detected the launch of two missiles from the village of Liptsy in Ukraine’s Kharkov Region. Six crew members and three Russian soldiers on board the IL-76 were killed along with the 65 Ukrainian captives.
”By committing this terrorist act, the Ukrainian leadership showed its true face, disregarding the lives of its citizens,” the Russian military said.
This would not be the first time Ukraine has targeted its own POWs in Russian custody. In August 2022, Ukrainian artillery used US-supplied HIMARS launchers for a rocket strike on a penal colony in Yelenovka, in the Donetsk People’s Republic. The facility housed almost 200 prisoners from the notorious neo-Nazi ‘Azov’ unit, who had surrendered in Mariupol several months prior. The missile strike killed 50 of them and wounded another 73. Russian authorities later revealed that the location was known to the Ukrainians because the government in Kiev had requested to have the prisoners moved there.
det är desinformation som sprids av ryska staten och du är en nyttig idiot som sprider den vidare.
Det är redan visat att planet var påväg från Belgorod i nord östlig riktning. Dagen innan hade den flugit från Iran till Belgorod förmodligen med vapen.
Var är alla kroppar då? Ryssland har ju haft en hel dag på sig att leverera en video med 60+ döda ukrainska fångar. Det finns istället flera videos från kraschen som visar delar från planet och bara ett par kroppar. Ryssland skulle ju alla gånger ta tillfället i akt att visa upp döda ukrainska fångar då det vore en enorm propagandavinst.
Ju längre tid det tar innan en sådan video kommer desto mindre trovärdighet får den då de kan ha manipulerat området.
De kommer kanske...
Men vad tros om följande scenario.
* Fångutväxling ska ske.
* Ukraina skjuter ned plan med dyr utrustning ombord. Dock inga fångar. Varför skulle man transportera fångar från Belgorod... dessutom i ett plan som är dyrt i drift och inte enklare alternativet med tåg/motorfordon?
* Ryssarna blir pissed för att planet gått ned precis innan fångutväxlingen och ställer in denna.
* Man fabricerar en lögn om att det inte blir någon utväxling då fångarna var på planet och är döda och svartmålar Ukraina som har ihjäl sina egna.
* Ev. har man ihjäl ett gäng ukrainska krigsfångar och låtsas att dessa var på planet.
det är desinformation som sprids av ryska staten och du är en nyttig idiot som sprider den vidare.
Det är redan visat att planet var påväg från Belgorod i nord östlig riktning. Dagen innan hade den flugit från Iran till Belgorod förmodligen med vapen.
Listan som finns publicerad på RT.com med fångarnas namn 65 stycken, är den fejk då?
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Senast redigerad av dfdr 2024-01-24 kl. 20:10.