Winston Churchill

Revisionen av Churchills roll i historien fortskrider obevekligt, men det är nog ingen som förnekar det äregiriga gamla fyllots karisma och förmåga att få saker gjorda. Att han tilldelades Nobelpriset i litteratur tycks dock i dagens läge tämligen svårbegripligt...

Länk till The Churchill Centre, ett par recensioner av den andra volymen av David Irvings Churchillmonografi, och boken som gratis pdf-download:

http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/...cfm?pageid=342


http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v20/v20n4p43_Weber.html

"---It is difficult to avoid being impressed, even dazzled, by Churchill's colorful personality, in comparison with which most political leaders of the past fifty years seem pale midgets. From the pages of this book emerges a vivid portrait of an often exasperating and sometimes callous man of quick wit, myriad prejudices, puckish humor, arresting eloquence, and enormous energy.

As with Irving's other biographical works, this book's strength is also its weakness. While it is packed with day-to-day and even hour-to-hour detail, Irving sometimes, and perhaps unavoidably, neglects context and the larger picture. He sheds new light on Churchill's relations with major and minor figures of the fragile Allied wartime coalition, including, for example, his deep, abiding loathing of "Free French" leader Charles De Gaulle. Irving traces Churchill's wartime hypocrisy and treachery -- most tragically toward the Poles, on whose behalf Britain had declared war against Germany in 1939.---"


http://www.fpp.co.uk/reviews/Churchi...ald210701.html

"---The war between Churchill and Hitler ultimately came down to this: did the British people in 1940-1 prefer to be ruled by a man whom Irving accuses of dining on oysters, champagne and roast partridge or by a vegetarian teetotaller who spent his evenings discussing tank production statistics? Were we for fun or virtue?

Having long since lost whatever Calvinist soul it may once have had, Britain chose the former. But Irving, one suspects, still has a Calvinist soul. And that is why men like the appalling Mr. Justice Gray mistrust his motives. In an odd sense, Irving is the victim of his own seriousness -- how very Scottish of him.---"


http://www.fpp.co.uk/books/Churchill/2/index.html

Jag såg på TV (discovery) att Churchill under slutskedet av WW2 ville bomba Berlin med gas. Naturligtvis insåg hans militära rådgivare dårskapet i detta, och sa givetvis emot.

Vet någon om detta stämmer?

Jo, Churchill hade sett att lite gas vid rätt tillfälle fick besvärliga kurder och pathaner att knipa käft och sluta trilskas, och i något stadium av sin mer eller mindre konstanta berusning var han beredd att gasa tyska städer också:

http://www.fpp.co.uk/bookchapters/WSC/gaswar.html

Mjältbrand var en annan sak britterna övervägde att hemsöka Tyskland med, kodnamnet var "Operation Vegetarian" :

http://www.fpp.co.uk/bookchapters/WSC/Bwar2.html

Gillar hans förhållningssätt i allmänhet, och till alkoholen i synnerhet ~"konjak till frukost kl 11:00 'typ'.

Förlåter honom yttrandet om golf - 'An impossible game with impossible tools' (man kan inte vara bäst på allt)

Han lär ha yttrat denna också (har inte full koll på kopplingen till W.C.) - 'Golf is an intelligent game played by intelligent people, stupidly'

Detta från texten i en av länkarna:

Källa: http://www.fpp.co.uk/bookchapters/WSC/gaswar.html

Ezzelino, du håller ju ständigt på att försköna Förintelsen, så jag undrar om en tråd om Adolf Hitler inte skulle passa dig rätt bra.....

Sa ha inte "Golf is a nice walk spoiled"

Winstons stundom bankruttnära privata affärer hade av allt att döma ett inte helt sunt inflytande på hans politiska ställningstaganden i relation till Tyskland:

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v07/v07p498_Okeefe.html

"---Irving went on us describe several sources of secret financial, support enjoyed by Churchill. In addition to money supplied by the Czech government, Churchill was financed during the "wilderness years" between 1930 anf 1939 by a slush fund emanating from a secret pressure group known as the Focus.

Irving on the Focus:

The Focus was financed by a slush fund set up by some of London's wealthiest businessmen. Principally, businessmen organized by the Board of Jewish Deputies in England, whose chairman was a man called Sir Bemard Waley Cohen. Sir Bernard Waley Cohen held a private dinner party at his apartment on July 29, 1936. This is in Waley Cohen's memoirs ... The 29th of July, 1936, Waley Cohen set up a slush fund of 50,000 pounds for The Focus, the Churchill pressure group. Now, 50,000 pounds in 1936, multiply that by ten, at least, to get today's figures. By another three or four to multiply that into Canadian dollars. So, 40 times 50,000 pounds -- about $2 million in Canadian terms -- was given by Bernard Waley Cohen to this secret pressure group of Churchill in July 1936. The purpose was, the tune that Churchill had to play was, fight Germany. Start warning the world about Gennany, about Nazi Germany. Churchill, of course, one of our most brilliant orators, a magnificent writer, did precisely that.

For two years, The Focus continued to militate, in fact, right through until 1939. And I managed to find the secret files of The Focus, I know the names of all the members. I know all their secrets. I know how much money they were getting, not just from The Pocus, but from other governments. I use the word "other governments" advisedly because one of my sources of information for my Churchill biography is, in fact, the Chaim Weizmann Papers in the State of Israel. Israel has made available to me all Churchill's secret correspondence with Chain Weizmann, all his secret conferences. It is an astonishing thing, but I, despite my reputation, in a kind of negative sense with these people, am given access to files like that, just the same as the Russian Government has given me complete access to all of the Soviet records of Churchill's dealings with Ivan Maisky, Joseph Stalin, Molotov and the rest of them. I am the only historian who has been given access to these Russian records. It is a kind of horse trading method that I use when I want access to these files, because it is in these foreign archives we find the truth about Winston Churchill.

When you want the evidence about his tax dodging in 1949 and thereabouts, you are not going to look in his own tax files, you're going to look in the files of those who employed him, like the Time/Life Corporation of America. That's where you look. And when you're looking for evidence about who was putting money up for Churchill when he was in the wilderness and who was funding this secret group of his, The Focus, you're not going to look in his files, again you're going to look in the secret files, for example, of the Czech government in Prague, because that is where much of the money was coming from.

Irving then revealed further details of Churchill's financing by the Czechs, as well as the facts of Churchill s financial rescue by a wealthy banker of Austro-Jewish origins, Sir Henry Strakosch, who, in Irving's words, emerged "out of the woodwork of the City of London, that great pure international financial institution." When Churchill was bankrupted overnight in the American stock market crash of 1938, it was Strakosch, who was instrumental in setting up the central banks of South Africa and India, who bought up all Churchill's debts. When Strakosch died in 1943, the details of his will, published in the London Times, included a bequest of £20,000 to the then Prime Minister, eliminating the entire debt.---"

Mark Twain
“golf is a terrible way to ruin a good walk.”
http://www.thethinkingmind.com/artic....cfm?art_id=88

George Bernard Shaw
'Playing golf is a good way to ruin a nice walk'
http://www.parknasillahotel.com/golf.html

Sir Winston Churchill
"A diabotical way to ruin what would otherwise be a walk in pleasant surroundings"
http://www.finetravel.com/unitedstat...nia/carmel.htm

James Raisbeck (Who?)
"Golfing is a good way to spoil an otherwise excellent walk in a beautiful park."
http://www.elliottaviation.com/wavel...2/wavart30.asp

OK, skönt att det blev utrett

Han bolmade som en borstbindare ,drack Konjak på morgonen ,samt knapprade på några tabletter konstant (något uppåtjack?) enligt Discovery

en riktig ledare

Jodå, han lär visst ha varit en tjackpundare i Görings klass....